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merrily

(45,251 posts)
59. I have adored Kennedy.
Sun Mar 9, 2014, 05:35 AM
Mar 2014

It disillusioned me a lot when Kennedy said that the biggest regret of his life was stopping Nixon from passing a health care plan because--wait for it--Kennedy wanted a Democratic President to pass it. He said he repented of that decision, but, by then, Nixon couldn't be bothered, because he was embroiled in Watergate. And I believed him.

But, then, when I heard a Democratic President, Carter say, maybe a year ago, that Kennedy had stopped him, too, because Kennedy wanted to be President and get it pass during his administration, my heart about broke. It hadn't even been about a Democratic President! Not that that is a good reason to stall health care, but personal vanity?

And, of course, by the time a plan passed, Congress had gone batshit corporate and the Republicans "thinkers" had had time to react to Nixon's plan (employer mandate, I think, no individual) with the Heritage Foundation Health Insurer Gift Pack.


Kennedy said affordable health care was the "cause of my life." He said that, when he got injured in a plane crash early on, he realized that he had recovered only because he could afford great medical care.

I will have a very soft spot in my heart for Kennedy until I die. I cannot help but smile and feel love when I see any photo of him. And, I feel, he deserves that.

Among many, many other good things, he did get one hell of a lot of health care legislation throughout his career. But, saying health care was the cause of his life and stopping two Presidents who wanted to pass health care legislation and had Democratic Congresses because of partisanship and/or personal vanity is a very hard thing for me to swallow.

you are 100% correct! spanone Mar 2014 #1
Amen shenmue Mar 2014 #2
Jimmie Carter is a very decent man. Even if Carter wanted to be the worse President Thinkingabout Mar 2014 #3
They tried to sabotage his Presidency malaise Mar 2014 #5
Leave out "tried" Even Ted Kennedy WhiteTara Mar 2014 #38
True malaise Mar 2014 #44
back at you! WhiteTara Mar 2014 #48
I have adored Kennedy. merrily Mar 2014 #59
After he lied about Mary Jo, I lost all respect WhiteTara Mar 2014 #70
I am not clear which lie you mean. merrily Mar 2014 #103
I'm not trying to tarnish your hero WhiteTara Mar 2014 #107
Nor did I accuse you of that. merrily Mar 2014 #111
He lied about Mary Jo and WhiteTara Mar 2014 #113
I agree about not having heroes. merrily Mar 2014 #117
If I were Youtube conversant, WhiteTara Mar 2014 #118
Cool It's soo easy, though. merrily Mar 2014 #120
Thanks! Back at you! WhiteTara Mar 2014 #121
And most Dems as well KamaAina Mar 2014 #4
He stands apart from all recent Presidents. American democracy and the Constitution, woo me with science Mar 2014 #6
Yes he's the only one who didn't sell out malaise Mar 2014 #7
New rule: Looks are not always deceiving. merrily Mar 2014 #29
Agreed. Rex Mar 2014 #90
Jimmy Carter is a more decent human being that most people etherealtruth Mar 2014 #8
Thanks Tweety malaise Mar 2014 #9
A thoroughly decent human being. At a book LibDemAlways Mar 2014 #10
That must have been a great moment malaise Mar 2014 #11
well he may be decent now heaven05 Mar 2014 #12
"Recovering Racist"? Roy Rolling Mar 2014 #16
Republicans are the worsT. No argument heaven05 Mar 2014 #31
I never said heaven05 Mar 2014 #40
No, you are not speaking of historical fact. You're smearing, 100% fact free, link free. merrily Mar 2014 #55
This poster thinks a child can have a best friend who is black and be a "recovering racist". L0oniX Mar 2014 #87
Carter is not a racist. But it *is* definitely possible to be a racist while newthinking Mar 2014 #92
Possible yes but also unlikely IMO ...especially with a person such as Carter. L0oniX Mar 2014 #100
I agree. Anyone who has paid any attention knows Carter is not a racist newthinking Mar 2014 #101
Yup. I wonder what this person has done for equal rights and people of color. merrily Mar 2014 #99
Why mention only Democrats? "In fact" most of the nation has a "long, rich merrily Mar 2014 #17
pissed you off huh? heaven05 Mar 2014 #30
your repeated use of the word "FACT" is disconcerting G_j Mar 2014 #36
Links? heaven05 Mar 2014 #39
Southern culture G_j Mar 2014 #41
"southern culture and carter's individual history are two seperate issues" heaven05 Mar 2014 #43
well G_j Mar 2014 #46
a lot are heaven05 Mar 2014 #53
Yes, a lot are and a lot aren't, yet you insist Carter is because he war merrily Mar 2014 #58
All this fact free, link free nonsense heaven05 Mar 2014 #61
Nutjob Michael Medved fan? cordelia Mar 2014 #72
I don't know of him heaven05 Mar 2014 #73
The fact that he integrated Georgia slipped into to the public record, too. merrily Mar 2014 #104
okay, here is why I heaven05 Mar 2014 #109
Where to begin? merrily Mar 2014 #110
I expected your kind of response heaven05 Mar 2014 #114
He had nothing to do with it and your beef is with your town anyway. merrily Mar 2014 #116
Oh, please. No one said anything about your right to like or dislike him. merrily Mar 2014 #102
I googled before my first reply to him. merrily Mar 2014 #57
Wingnuts have been running a smear campaign against Carter jsr Mar 2014 #64
Nice. The man's 89. merrily Mar 2014 #65
I call bullshit. And yes, you do need links, or you reveal a lot. merrily Mar 2014 #56
Google on. I use a different search engine. heaven05 Mar 2014 #63
Speaking of shameful garbage, whatever he did or did not do, he's more than redeemed himself. merrily Mar 2014 #66
in the old days here at DU, G_j Mar 2014 #69
okay link-source heaven05 Mar 2014 #71
Do you not know how to post links? alittlelark Mar 2014 #88
no I don't heaven05 Mar 2014 #108
cut and paste the url into your text. alittlelark Mar 2014 #122
thank you heaven05 Mar 2014 #123
Still not ringing true. merrily Mar 2014 #119
our remembrances of history is flawed, our search engine is flawed, and our asking you to cite sour LanternWaste Mar 2014 #112
thanks little fella heaven05 Mar 2014 #115
Sorry, no. I have no idea who you are and think very merrily Mar 2014 #54
Transparency and all. Sissyk Mar 2014 #23
Transparency. merrily Mar 2014 #60
I smell a steaming pile eShirl Mar 2014 #50
Have you even read about his childhood? L0oniX Mar 2014 #68
his childhood heaven05 Mar 2014 #75
You are clueless. L0oniX Mar 2014 #78
just because everyone like pres. carter does not mean I have to like him. heaven05 Mar 2014 #79
You said he was a "recovering racist" ...and that is bullshit! L0oniX Mar 2014 #80
according to you heaven05 Mar 2014 #82
I don't have to defend him. His bio says enough about his unbringing and his friends to refute L0oniX Mar 2014 #83
fine heaven05 Mar 2014 #84
I'll bet you never read anything about his childhood friends. L0oniX Mar 2014 #86
europeans and americans have a long rich history of racism. nt La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2014 #76
Fuck you "Bobby" Jindal too. tabasco Mar 2014 #13
Amen. silvershadow Mar 2014 #14
Why is anyone attacking Carter? blackspade Mar 2014 #15
My guess? So that they can reinforce the RW meme that merrily Mar 2014 #18
Good luck with that.... blackspade Mar 2014 #24
I don't know why I need luck to guess, but thanks? merrily Mar 2014 #25
Apologies, I wasn't being clear. blackspade Mar 2014 #42
They have to. Because he is religious and an incredible man newthinking Mar 2014 #91
That's a good point. blackspade Mar 2014 #95
Some context? I don't have TV Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #19
I do, but I haven't been attentive. Might be this? merrily Mar 2014 #26
Could be. He must have short term memory loss. Shrub was hovering in the Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #27
My opinion? The issue is meme, not memory. merrily Mar 2014 #28
Also a more decent human being than any other president of the US. Ever. nt Bonobo Mar 2014 #20
Obvious is Obvious. PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #21
If the majority of people in this country had followed Carter's suggestions on energy, bluestate10 Mar 2014 #22
he is a visionary otherone Mar 2014 #33
agreed otherone Mar 2014 #32
Did someone say Ronald Reagan was a less decent human being than any Democrat? gulliver Mar 2014 #34
Probably our most decent and honest President, ever William Seger Mar 2014 #35
He was too decent and honest for his own good. MoonRiver Mar 2014 #37
Well, sure. But that's setting the bar pretty low, don'tcha think? Lizzie Poppet Mar 2014 #45
Jimmy Carter is not only a better human being than any rethug, he is better than most of any..... DrewFlorida Mar 2014 #47
You dang right he is madokie Mar 2014 #49
He had to go-he pissed off the Fossil Fuel industry. ErikJ Mar 2014 #51
He was light years ahead of them malaise Mar 2014 #52
And ronald reagan thoughtfully had the solar works on the White House roof removed. calimary Mar 2014 #93
Google "jimmy carter racist" ----> breitbart.com, nationalreview.com, newsrealblog.com et al jsr Mar 2014 #62
Jimmy is more decent than the majority of people IMO. L0oniX Mar 2014 #67
I think so too. polly7 Mar 2014 #74
A box of rocks would be a more decent human being. hobbit709 Mar 2014 #77
it's lovely that this thread is still thriving....God bless President Jimmy Cater spanone Mar 2014 #81
Fuck You Bobby Jindall for Your Comments at CPAC Corey_Baker08 Mar 2014 #85
Amen. calimary Mar 2014 #94
I second both statements Tsiyu Mar 2014 #89
Goes without saying Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2014 #96
NS, S. WinkyDink Mar 2014 #97
Jimmy Carter, USN, is an Atomic Hero of the United States of America and Canada Octafish Mar 2014 #98
Thanks for this malaise Mar 2014 #106
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #105
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