Even staunch critics on the left should give credit where credit is due

[TheKentuckian]

45. At this stage no credit is due, you are speaking of things that are not as though they were.

That is the definition of faith not fact. It may well turn out as you describe but that is not the current reality and there is many a slip between the cup and the lip.

I'll also add the the people and government of Vermont have laid a lot of ground work to even give the outline to hopefully be built around and it was fucking pulling teeth to even get this piece included to the point that serious threats to scuttle the entire effort had to be made to get this and the community health center resources added in as an afterthought once he rug had been pulled on other popular measures like drug reimportation, the public option, and lowering the Medicare eligibility age.

Now, I'm happy that some people are getting access to the system that were locked out and that some folks in the individual market are getting some relief just as I was glad that some seniors got some desperately needed help with their medications but in neither case am I going to celebrate the way it was done nor the costs nor who gets screwed.

Creating another set of "Too Big to Fail" institutions, this one with direct individual responsibility to be a captured customer is too high a price for what we got in return especially when we have about nothing else to offer for further concessions so any "fixing later" will take more will and ability to say "fuck off and die" than has ever existed in the history of this government since the Revolution.

I think we also over estimate the rationality and consistency of the espoused frugality of the right as in I'm not convinced that they will see money being saved elsewhere and bow to common sense and the pocketbook.
In fact, I contend that "fiscal conservatism" is pretty much either the province of Democrats and/or a flat out lie. Their actual intent is to plunder and tank the government and one of the best ways to hamstring a government is forcing high percentages to go toward servicing debt for money thrown into black holes to the point that all it does is shrink the functional economy.

Republicans don't save money they piss it away while strangling revenue. An ever downward spiral with a looted commons.