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HuckleB

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54. You make many claims, but you don't to be able to support them.

Sun Feb 16, 2014, 07:10 PM

Feb 2014

This piece is well-researched, and backed by clear science, and a clear scientific consensus.

Noting that, I can only wonder why you would make such adamant claims that don't match with the reality of the piece.

Hmmmmm.

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Organic Shmorganic -- Conventional fruits and vegetables are perfectly healthy for kids. [View all] HuckleB Feb 2014 OP

"Organic" is a scam. Archae Feb 2014 #1

And Desert805 Feb 2014 #3

I don't like Twinkies. Archae Feb 2014 #4

That many? And ou don't like them? SheilaT Feb 2014 #111

Like I said, not much. Archae Feb 2014 #113

I'm inclined to think that there are just too many things out SheilaT Feb 2014 #115

At least red herring does have some good nutrients! HuckleB Feb 2014 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author G_j Feb 2014 #121

I hope you brought enough for everyone. B2G Feb 2014 #7

Everything in moderation Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #8

Organics, unlike conventional produce, can only be grown with kestrel91316 Feb 2014 #20

Links to support your claims, please? HuckleB Feb 2014 #37

You mean claims about the manure? Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #45

You're not clarifying the claim made above. HuckleB Feb 2014 #46

For starters: kestrel91316 Feb 2014 #58

First, your link misses far wide, to be nice. HuckleB Feb 2014 #61

Who, besides LG says "Everything natural is GOOD for you!" ? uppityperson Feb 2014 #36

all I know is when I but factory farm milk I get issues frwrfpos Feb 2014 #101

Check out... HuckleB Feb 2014 #103

I dont see a link in your reply frwrfpos Feb 2014 #105

Just Google the term I gave you. HuckleB Feb 2014 #106

??? frwrfpos Feb 2014 #107

Derp. HuckleB Feb 2014 #108

What about organic popcorn? Wilms Feb 2014 #2

What kind of butter? HuckleB Feb 2014 #5

Not that "butter flavor" stuff they use in movie theaters! Archae Feb 2014 #9

Not butter. Parkay! Wilms Feb 2014 #22

The best- with no cholesterol and NO GMO solarhydrocan Feb 2014 #25

Lot's of "No _____" there. HuckleB Feb 2014 #34

I imagine accuracy in labeling may be perceived as a fear-mongering tactic LanternWaste Feb 2014 #44

What you call accuracy is marketing via fear-mongering. HuckleB Feb 2014 #47

Rea; butter is not poison. SheilaT Feb 2014 #112

If you blindfolded 100 people MattBaggins Feb 2014 #122

A reason to go "organic" is that is uses less resources (energy and water). progressoid Feb 2014 #10

A reason to NOT go organic... Archae Feb 2014 #13

eating poisonous mushrooms has nothing to do with being organic magical thyme Feb 2014 #14

+1 cyberswede Feb 2014 #15

Ignore the RW troll. kestrel91316 Feb 2014 #21

They supposedly are! Retrograde Feb 2014 #16

And back to the real world, and not just a single, out-of-context study. HuckleB Feb 2014 #17

To be clear progressoid Feb 2014 #50

And some genetic practices may be helping to reduce those very problems. HuckleB Feb 2014 #52

Please explain how the post in that link is in any way "back to the real world," Denzil_DC Feb 2014 #57

So you're response is to pretend that the piece is a single study? HuckleB Feb 2014 #59

You seem to have a habit of obfuscating and trying to put words in people's mouths, Denzil_DC Feb 2014 #65

I'm not the one who is obfuscating or creating strawmen. HuckleB Feb 2014 #66

For someone who's hopping round these subthreads, Denzil_DC Feb 2014 #74

I have posted solid stuff when it was needed. HuckleB Feb 2014 #77

Huh? Good grief. Denzil_DC Feb 2014 #81

She posted the usual personal attack BS, and made claims that she couldn't support. HuckleB Feb 2014 #82

"She posted the usual personal attack BS, and made claims that she couldn't support." Denzil_DC Feb 2014 #84

Nice cliche. HuckleB Feb 2014 #89

I've come to the considered conclusion you're just trolling at this point. n/t EOF Denzil_DC Feb 2014 #90

So you're going to claim that I'm doing what you've been doing. HuckleB Feb 2014 #92

PS: Organic May Not Be So Sustainable HuckleB Feb 2014 #19

Environmental impact of pesticides Zorra Feb 2014 #11

How does your wiki link address anything in the article linked in the OP? HuckleB Feb 2014 #31

Oh, small things, like pesticides really are deadly poison and highly destructive to critical Zorra Feb 2014 #55

In other words, you can't answer my question. HuckleB Feb 2014 #56

Only because you can't, or refuse to, understand the answer. nt Zorra Feb 2014 #62

I understand the fact that you have no answer very well. HuckleB Feb 2014 #63

When you find something that clearly isn't multinational corporate propaganda, I'll be impressed. Zorra Feb 2014 #67

I'm not pushing anything but good evidence. HuckleB Feb 2014 #68

It's good evidence that corporate bullshit for profit exists, for sure. Zorra Feb 2014 #85

You seem to think that posting anti-science goofiness is worthy. HuckleB Feb 2014 #86

LOL TransitJohn Feb 2014 #138

Thank you for doing the background check - it never occurred to me that the author hedgehog Feb 2014 #125

Oh Boy - another Woo Punching thread !!! Berlum Feb 2014 #12

Yes, of course, that's what it is. HuckleB Feb 2014 #18

When you think in such ridiculously black-and-white terms... Silent3 Feb 2014 #42

In my personal opinion (whatever that's worth), Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2014 #23

It is not quite that simple. RC Feb 2014 #28

They aren't putting pesticides/insectcides in plants.... Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2014 #29

I heard a guy on Coast to Coast say GMOs are bad NobodyHere Feb 2014 #32

You are correct. RC Feb 2014 #33

Monoculture is an issue in farming period... Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2014 #35

Some GMO crops most definitely have been modified to make their own Round Up RC Feb 2014 #39

RoundUp is poisonous. If it were in the plant, it would kill you... Dr Hobbitstein Feb 2014 #41

You're confusing BT pesticide with Round-Up herbicide NickB79 Feb 2014 #136

Look up super weeds, which are actually a big problem. The fact that GMO pushers seem to be ignorant Chathamization Feb 2014 #110

Super weeds were an issue long before GMOs. HuckleB Feb 2014 #120

NYT and Nature says GMOs are responsible. Ignorance doesn't mean "facts I don't like" Chathamization Feb 2014 #123

That addresses a specific case. You are pretending that this only case. HuckleB Feb 2014 #127

Nature - "GM crops have bred superweeds: True" Chathamization Feb 2014 #131

The way I see it - Organic food IS conventional. The_Commonist Feb 2014 #24

+1000 peacebird Feb 2014 #26

+++++++++++++++++++++ uppityperson Feb 2014 #27

All food is pretty new, if you're going to look at it that way. HuckleB Feb 2014 #30

When studying something, oftentimes you can only determine the presence or absence of hedgehog Feb 2014 #40

A good red herring found its way to the board. HuckleB Feb 2014 #48

Not by independent scientists. Corporations that control the patents control the studies Berlum Feb 2014 #49

Are you really going to push this old meme? HuckleB Feb 2014 #53

Pesticides added to food are a new phenomenon. n/t pnwmom Feb 2014 #71

LOL! HuckleB Feb 2014 #73

Organic foods have nothing to do with your vaccine obsession. n/t pnwmom Feb 2014 #76

LOL! HuckleB Feb 2014 #78

What do you post other than Big Pharma and Corporate Farm promos? n/t pnwmom Feb 2014 #79

I only post things that show what the science shows. HuckleB Feb 2014 #80

Funny, I thought this was a left wing political site, not a Big Pharma/Farm site. n/t pnwmom Feb 2014 #83

When did left wing become synonymous with anti-science BS? HuckleB Feb 2014 #91

Progressives are pro-environment, not anti-science. pnwmom Feb 2014 #93

Science-based evidence aims to protect the environment. HuckleB Feb 2014 #94

Very true. But the existence of the atomic bomb demonstrates that sometimes science-based evidence pnwmom Feb 2014 #95

Derp. HuckleB Feb 2014 #96

Thank you Commonist.. Organic food was here first.. Cha Feb 2014 #43

+1 pa28 Feb 2014 #60

I prefer orgasmic fruit H2O Man Feb 2014 #38

The article is an excellent example of bait-and-switch use of data to support a hedgehog Feb 2014 #51

You make many claims, but you don't to be able to support them. HuckleB Feb 2014 #54

DU rec...nt SidDithers Feb 2014 #64

This article misstates the issue, with the usual straw man argument. pnwmom Feb 2014 #69

There are no strawmen in this article. HuckleB Feb 2014 #70

Some people wouldn't recognize a straw man if it punched them in the face. n/t pnwmom Feb 2014 #72

I'm quite sure you would not. HuckleB Feb 2014 #75

Whatever you paid hack. Feed it to your kids, I'll feed mine organic. Pisces Feb 2014 #87

I'm sorry that science and evidence are not your thing. HuckleB Feb 2014 #88

I'm sure it is the same science that said tobacco was safe for you. I'll use the logic of its poison Pisces Feb 2014 #97

Awesome red herring!! HuckleB Feb 2014 #98

I prefer my produce pesticide-free. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #99

Well, good luck with that. HuckleB Feb 2014 #100

Yeah, the farm I buy my organic produce from doesn't use pesticides. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #102

Nope. HuckleB Feb 2014 #104

Yeah, I volunteer there in the summer. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #109

I call BS. HuckleB Feb 2014 #118

HuckleB you are most likely dealing with people who are convinced that neem oil MattBaggins Feb 2014 #126

Read the comments section whatchamacallit Feb 2014 #114

The comments section. HuckleB Feb 2014 #116

For all intents and purposes your brilliant op is essentially a comments section whatchamacallit Feb 2014 #117

Saying it is doesn't make it so. HuckleB Feb 2014 #119

Give it up Huck whatchamacallit Feb 2014 #132

No, you don't know my ilk. HuckleB Feb 2014 #145

pesticide contamination of land and water never seems to be at issue in these discussions G_j Feb 2014 #124

I see you didn't read the article in the OP. HuckleB Feb 2014 #128

I read what you pasted G_j Feb 2014 #129

I buy organic when possible marions ghost Feb 2014 #130

this is what real science looks like: hedgehog Feb 2014 #133

Slate opinion piece trumps all of that whatchamacallit Feb 2014 #135

The Slate piece actually to much more science. HuckleB Feb 2014 #143

Ah, single studies given out of context. HuckleB Feb 2014 #141

My posting was in no way meant to collect all the recent studies on the subject hedgehog Feb 2014 #148

If you really are pro-science you're not doing science any favors with your posting style Fumesucker Feb 2014 #134

This OP is brought to you by Monsanto! tenderfoot Feb 2014 #137

Sure smells like it marions ghost Feb 2014 #139

And the pointless shill gambit is offered up as a non response. HuckleB Feb 2014 #140

It's not pointless if it's true. tenderfoot Feb 2014 #142

And your proof that it's true is...? HuckleB Feb 2014 #144

You're posting habits speak for themself - always promoting GMO's tenderfoot Feb 2014 #147

Buy at Trader Joe's when possible. randome Feb 2014 #146

Kick...nt SidDithers Feb 2014 #149