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In reply to the discussion: 2014 Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue Revealed. [View all]redqueen
(115,164 posts)485. Yet another load of vendetta-laden bullshit.
When did I call you a rape apologist?
I attempted to have a rational calm dialogue with you but you're too invested in your grudges.
Enjoy it. And I hope someday you DO dare to talk to someone outside your insulated little bubble of bullshit (yes, it is bullshit) "choice" feminism. Maybe there's still hope.
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Thank you ever so much! Is that a beautiful sight or what? Of course I could technically be their
Happyhippychick
Feb 2014
#199
One thing that really sickens me is the fox news-like mendacity of some on this thread.
redqueen
Feb 2014
#280
Perhaps they are discussing how modern understandings of biomechanics contribute
struggle4progress
Feb 2014
#670
exactly. I cant believe people applauding the Sams cover (rightly so)
BlancheSplanchnik
Feb 2014
#29
+1. well said. and since you said, i dont have to. and i can stay out.... lol, nt
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#119
yeah....I sometimes can no longer stand to cover the truth in polite words.
BlancheSplanchnik
Feb 2014
#124
Right on, spot on and good for you! Cock tease is waaaaay to polite as far as I am concerned.
Ninga
Feb 2014
#186
Thank you sister! Stadiums, ball parks, bars, sidewalks, construction sites, fraternity houses,
Ninga
Feb 2014
#210
oh, ....well I was interested in seeing parity with regard to nudity.
BlancheSplanchnik
Feb 2014
#302
"There is no respect shown in magazines that publish pictures like that of women,"
OilemFirchen
Feb 2014
#318
So, you ignored everything I wrote and focused one thing not related to the overall theme
joeglow3
Feb 2014
#249
Yeah, y'know what? Considering you're the 'it's so hard to tell if people are drunk or consenting
redqueen
Feb 2014
#251
Nope. That's only your perspective, because you post sickening bullshit like you did about rape.
redqueen
Feb 2014
#482
The position of the editorial was idiotic rightwing anti-feminist bullshit. We all get it.
redqueen
Feb 2014
#568
So we rationalize the actions of Madison Avenue which instills the branding and images into our min
LanternWaste
Feb 2014
#253
Your definition of porn appears to differ from mine. The SI swimsuit issue ain't it.
Comrade Grumpy
Feb 2014
#539
To turn the tables would require much more than swapping out male models for female ones.
redqueen
Feb 2014
#149
I suspect there is no amount of criticism you would accept as legitimate
LordGlenconner
Feb 2014
#698
Accuracy is often disgusting... especially as in regards to branding by Madison Avenue.
LanternWaste
Feb 2014
#252
Indeed, the chattering commentariat who think women in bathing suits on a beach are "HORRENDOUS"
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#452
clearly your words establish you as someone in a position to lecture on empathy & decency to others.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#600
I need more specifics. I assume these are the DU members you called.... what was the term you used?
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#650
You know..it never ceases to amaze me how the filthiest terms used to describe women on DU
msanthrope
Feb 2014
#53
i used it to make very clear, beyond any doubt, what SI is using those women for.
BlancheSplanchnik
Feb 2014
#69
So it's okay for posters, regardless of gender, to use that word for "shock value?" nt
msanthrope
Feb 2014
#75
Indeed...certain rules do apply to certain people...I was called "dear" repeatedly and over
msanthrope
Feb 2014
#97
I'm pretty sure there are lots of pretty boys who would like to be hired
BlancheSplanchnik
Feb 2014
#118
you just switched the subject. My reply was to your point--please remain on topic.
BlancheSplanchnik
Feb 2014
#127
you're rambling. Using insults instead of engaging in good faith discussion.
BlancheSplanchnik
Feb 2014
#179
Here's the essential arrogance of your statement....that you think you are opening eyes, and
msanthrope
Feb 2014
#125
You are comparing yourself to Alan Ginsburg? Alan would still have to abide
msanthrope
Feb 2014
#231
Allen ....no I'm not comparing myself. I'm talking about using literary conventions
BlancheSplanchnik
Feb 2014
#237
Literary conventions? That's what you think you are using? I think you just need
msanthrope
Feb 2014
#261
i didn't say i was victimized by your hatred. :) I said you are enjoying it.
BlancheSplanchnik
Feb 2014
#285
"Jejune?" Look at you! And how is associating you with seabeyond besmirching you? nt
msanthrope
Feb 2014
#339
thank you again. msanthrope's objection centers on my use of the phrase,
BlancheSplanchnik
Feb 2014
#270
Well, that would be the sum total of the women I have encountered in my life
Kelvin Mace
Feb 2014
#172
So would I, but we subscribe to it as my husband and I are huge sports fans. nt
RiffRandell
Feb 2014
#19
I don't even see swim suits - just some butt floss. It's pretty disgusting.
CrackerJohn
Feb 2014
#42
Indeed, because it is not natural to look at people you are attracted to
The Straight Story
Feb 2014
#33
That would only make sense if the "sport" of sex was one-sided. Like hunting, but with women as prey
redqueen
Feb 2014
#567
And you know this how? You're inside other peoples' heads now? You were 1500 years ago?
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#649
I guess you're ignorant of the fact that conflating the criticism of objectification
redqueen
Feb 2014
#497
*even more exagerrated sigh* One Voice talked about women making their own choices...
Violet_Crumble
Feb 2014
#664
See, this idea that individual women can just make up whatever ideology they like,
redqueen
Feb 2014
#665
I guess yr just going to have to get used to women disagreeing with you on feminism then...
Violet_Crumble
Feb 2014
#666
those covers confirmed my point. DECADES of S.I. covers...and the number of women
BlancheSplanchnik
Feb 2014
#56
I subscribe to the magazine for the sports...end of story. While I wish they would focus that issue
ScreamingMeemie
Feb 2014
#147
Ask a middle school boy what would happen if he showed up to a pool party in a speedo...
Hippo_Tron
Feb 2014
#620
Have you seen the sales numbers for the "50 Shades" trilogy? Some women are indeed buying porn. nt
msanthrope
Feb 2014
#57
Now I'm envisioning "In The Hall of the Mountain King" done in 70s porn wah-wah tones
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#128
that is not correct. further, actually doing two different scientific studies, not answering a
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#184
you started your argument with a false base. take out the very beginning, your whole post collapses.
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#204
Who buys romance novels? Why are the bought? Do they create unreasonable standards for men?
joeglow3
Feb 2014
#220
I do not doubt you at all BB. I'm kind of shocked she would go there and then complain about being
seaglass
Feb 2014
#603
Thanks for the screenshot BB - provides a lot more perspective on what's going on here. n/t
seaglass
Feb 2014
#605
As far as some sort of modesty functionality of swimsuits goes - are these suits designed to
Ed Suspicious
Feb 2014
#89
of course you don't! that's a perfectly natural position assumed by women everywhere!
Scout
Feb 2014
#106
No, I'm a normal person that is not "fetishing" but seeing what's truly there
RiffRandell
Feb 2014
#132
so, because he didn't want to discuss it with you, he can't discuss it with anyone??
opiate69
Feb 2014
#484
There you go again, thinking you have any ability to "teach" anyone anything..
opiate69
Feb 2014
#180
There certainly are many here who are unteachable but there are also many who have not spoken
seaglass
Feb 2014
#212
We're certainly learning some of the kinky projections that go through the minds of some
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Feb 2014
#290
You've never seen anything remotely like that on a beach in your life? Really?
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#281
Lol.. true.. here in Washington, beachwear tends to be a little less revealing
opiate69
Feb 2014
#359
We actually had one day last summer where the beach was actually beach weather.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#370
The subthread started with a complaint that they're supposedly saying "here's my *** for *******"
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#528
It's bizarre to me that you *don't* realize that is *exactly* what that photo is intended to evoke.
MadrasT
Feb 2014
#156
i figured you were going there. being an expert at having to clarify, lol....
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#188
again... lol. i kinda feel the same. unfortunately, when it comes to objectifying women, too many
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#211
I don't know about you, but I think proper dental hygenie is important
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#365
Standards of facial attractiveness at least are fairly universal in different cultures
Fumesucker
Feb 2014
#451
I don't need a button. I'm the one who's been *forcing* people to click on the OP.
pacalo
Feb 2014
#659
Oh, I meant that esteemed superhero member of DU's Legion of Justice
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#662
So I take it you don't read magazines with people on the covers...or inside? nt
RiffRandell
Feb 2014
#373
The divining is so mysterious and difficult - lol. 380 posts, open for about 8 hrs and 10 mostly
seaglass
Feb 2014
#384
If it was inconceivable this morning to you and Riff that this is how this thread was going to play
seaglass
Feb 2014
#423
Because a lot of people don't know where or how to find such pictures.
A-Schwarzenegger
Feb 2014
#383
that would be wrong. surprise? check out the many people that called bullshit that had nothing to
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#414
Small acts of civil disobedience such as this make me feel all warm and fuzzy. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Feb 2014
#422
At 438 replies, it fits GD because people are generally interested in discussing it. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Feb 2014
#439
It sucks that it's so, but I agree with all of the HoFers on this.
Waiting For Everyman
Feb 2014
#408
i think riff, you got a pat on the back from every guy in the mens group. throw out a naked woman
seabeyond
Feb 2014
#424
Leave it to feminists to complain when women are freely expressing and celebrating their sexuality
davidn3600
Feb 2014
#435
Apparently, this sort of thing would never be legally permissible in "a public space"
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#462
"yeah, but EXCEPT for medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads,
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#486
How is that still a thing? The internet has porn, the ESPN mag has naked athletes.
LeftyMom
Feb 2014
#515
Honestly, magazines in general are flailing desperately to justify their existence.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#536
The point is to remind people of women's place in society, and to pander to men who enjoy seeing
redqueen
Feb 2014
#576
Appealing to men's enjoyment of their higher status in society makes big bucks.
redqueen
Feb 2014
#591
I'm not saying that the swimsuit issue specifically caused anorexia to exist.
cui bono
Feb 2014
#638
Why should consenting adults be ashamed of their sexuality? Or hide it?
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#651
So why isn't it enough to know that women are offended by it to make you want to not do it?
cui bono
Feb 2014
#675
I'm sure the people who feel they're entitled to tell gay folks not to hold hands, THINK they are
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#676
...almost everyone here does something that offends someone else, at some point
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#683
I don't like to get into the gender wars, but I must say I've always wondered what
liberal_at_heart
Feb 2014
#644
Leaving aside the 'sturm und drang' and global Defcon 5 crisis that a picture of 3 women in bikinis
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#654
then you don't want to miss the Kate Upton bodypainting video - no photoshopping here
Baclava
Feb 2014
#691
I've been assured that there are no bodies that look like that in real life.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#694
Apparently there are no 20something women in the world who actually have bodies like that.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2014
#690