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Octafish

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112. If by 'evil' you mean a government in service to the richest people in the world...

Wed Feb 5, 2014, 04:17 PM

Feb 2014

...who amass untold fortune from wars without end, yes.

If they themselves labor in service to Satan, that is debatable.

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Former Clinton USDA Official: “Our political system is basically evil versus spineless now" [View all] cali Feb 2014 OP

This corporate Farm Bill is going to come back to bite America in the ass Berlum Feb 2014 #1

I want the commode gLibDem Feb 2014 #44

Sad Truth...wake up billhicks76 Feb 2014 #179

I'm not asleep. I simply thought the commode looked awesome. gLibDem Feb 2014 #181

Agreed billhicks76 Feb 2014 #186

I will say that I actually have some faith in the next generation. gLibDem Feb 2014 #187

Prison State billhicks76 Feb 2014 #188

Crap! I hadn't considered that. And yet it makes sense. gLibDem Feb 2014 #189

Optimist Fumesucker Feb 2014 #2

bwahahaha. sob, sob, sob. cali Feb 2014 #3

Flattery will get you nowhere with me Fumesucker Feb 2014 #6

Dude is a ProSense Feb 2014 #4

You can't have it both ways. Beacool Feb 2014 #48

Clinton ProSense Feb 2014 #55

Please, you act like the RW bringing up Benghazi every time someone mentions Christie. Beacool Feb 2014 #59

WTF? Are you denying that Clinton bragged about Welfare reform? ProSense Feb 2014 #63

Whatever, Pro. Beacool Feb 2014 #67

LOL! n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #68

you guys quit fightin! dionysus Feb 2014 #93

Is that a cat bankie? Beacool Feb 2014 #109

AND, it's a bankie suit! dionysus Feb 2014 #117

Yeah, there's that too. Beacool Feb 2014 #121

then you better change into your banky and enjoy the evening by the fire... dionysus Feb 2014 #123

I'm enjoying a cup of tea and a small piece of cake. Beacool Feb 2014 #127

Thanks Bea...I know I can depend on you to come to the rescue. Auntie Bush Feb 2014 #125

We are the Valkyries around here. Beacool Feb 2014 #128

don't go dinging anyone but rabid racoons coming for your bankie with that cast iron! dionysus Feb 2014 #134

Two things I protect against all attackers: Hillary and the bankies. Beacool Feb 2014 #158

you joisey broads are something else... dionysus Feb 2014 #160

We are tough, we have to be considering where we live. Beacool Feb 2014 #161

Benghazi is a Republicanese word with it's origin In Libya meaning : world wide wally Feb 2014 #126

So funny that you diss Clinton when Obama gets a clear pass from you for the same things. lark Feb 2014 #120

What nonsense. Clinton bragged about and supported Welfare reform. ProSense Feb 2014 #122

And Obama took office pledging to cut entitlements. merrily Feb 2014 #132

And it hasn't happened. Welfare reform happened, and ProSense Feb 2014 #133

Wrong. Cuts have happened. And he's tried and tried for more merrily Feb 2014 #136

Nonsense ProSense Feb 2014 #138

Then he should not have signed them, but you've omitted mention of the other merrily Feb 2014 #140

LOL! "Attempted" ProSense Feb 2014 #143

Still unworthy tactics. Obama set out to cut safety nets, succeeded in some and failed in others. merrily Feb 2014 #144

Yes, ProSense Feb 2014 #145

And Obama set out to cut entitlements. That was his goal. merrily Feb 2014 #147

No, it wasn't his "goal." ProSense Feb 2014 #148

Now, you are not even trying to make sense. Cutting entitlements absolutely was his goal. merrily Feb 2014 #150

LOL! ProSense Feb 2014 #153

After the 7 millionth LOL, it gets tedious. merrily Feb 2014 #157

You seem ProSense Feb 2014 #165

No, my links are proof. merrily Feb 2014 #166

No, ProSense Feb 2014 #170

That was not one of my links. And I never said Conyers was a Republican. merrily Feb 2014 #171

Wait ProSense Feb 2014 #172

My Reply 150 linked to an interview Obama gave the Washington Post. merrily Feb 2014 #173

Um, ProSense Feb 2014 #174

Good grief. merrily Feb 2014 #176

'We moved millions of people off welfare'. Really, where did they go? Did they get sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #168

We wouldn't want to hear anything from apologists now AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #107

+1 leeroysphitz Feb 2014 #111

And so focused on it, to boot, that cuts to welfare and food stamps get a ROFL emoticon. merrily Feb 2014 #135

And signing it was an act of the President. merrily Feb 2014 #131

clinton "apologist"? SwampG8r Feb 2014 #183

Senator Sanders' statement: ProSense Feb 2014 #5

The POTUS haS the veto pen. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #7

don't bother. cali Feb 2014 #8

LOL! ProSense Feb 2014 #10

I always bother. To question evil R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #16

Excellent! gLibDem Feb 2014 #57

I quit giving that one an excuse to increase her word count a long time ago. n/t A Simple Game Feb 2014 #23

The bill passed with a veto-proof majority. Still, ProSense Feb 2014 #9

Exactly, it's an ancient characteristic Fumesucker Feb 2014 #11

Right, Congress ProSense Feb 2014 #13

Republicans are nuts and about as smart as your average houseplant Fumesucker Feb 2014 #18

They are paid to lose Chisox08 Feb 2014 #115

Because the Rank-and-File Republicans ARE So Stupid they Will Believe Anything Faux Nooze Says AndyTiedye Feb 2014 #129

Republican voting patterns aren't what you might think, it's full wallet that votes Republican Fumesucker Feb 2014 #180

actually, it's your ignorance about the guy that's hilarious, pro cali Feb 2014 #12

Who Leahy? ProSense Feb 2014 #14

I would not have described it as ignorance, but merrily Feb 2014 #142

Well then, It looks as if the Dems and repugs R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #15

He would be wise to veto it. former9thward Feb 2014 #31

Was I tole a lie? R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #39

I never accuse others of lying. former9thward Feb 2014 #42

Should have known. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #50

Yes, food stamps going to zero would definitely be better. jeff47 Feb 2014 #43

That was not an option. former9thward Feb 2014 #45

A continuing resolution with an expiration date. jeff47 Feb 2014 #51

There was no expiration date. former9thward Feb 2014 #54

All the continuing resolutions have expiration dates. jeff47 Feb 2014 #62

What as the expiration date? former9thward Feb 2014 #77

You think if you were so sure, you'd have linked the bill. jeff47 Feb 2014 #83

It does not expire. former9thward Feb 2014 #87

You should read your own quotes. jeff47 Feb 2014 #95

So far you have not come up with this mythical expiration date. former9thward Feb 2014 #96

I already provided it. jeff47 Feb 2014 #100

What's the date --- since you provided it? former9thward Feb 2014 #102

"The bill passed with a veto-proof majority" former9thward Feb 2014 #30

Is 68 more than two-thirds of 100? ProSense Feb 2014 #32

Oh, only the Senate gets to vote on legislation? former9thward Feb 2014 #37

The Senate AND the House have to vote to override a veto. The Senate has the votes but the House neverforget Feb 2014 #141

435 * 2/3 = 290. jeff47 Feb 2014 #46

My calculator has a different result. former9thward Feb 2014 #53

I think you need a new calculator. jeff47 Feb 2014 #61

Again, what difference does it make? former9thward Feb 2014 #76

Well, when you are attacking someone for faulty math skills jeff47 Feb 2014 #79

And had Obama been the one to sign it LondonReign2 Feb 2014 #47

Bullshit. ProSense Feb 2014 #60

lol. you don't like the truth too much. cali Feb 2014 #81

Oooh ProSense Feb 2014 #82

So? progressoid Feb 2014 #86

Even Pilot washed his hands in front of the crowd. zeemike Feb 2014 #110

Bull. No one knows what is veto proof and what is not until a veto is made. merrily Feb 2014 #149

First, ProSense Feb 2014 #151

No, you don't know what you are talking about. merrily Feb 2014 #155

Frankly, ProSense Feb 2014 #156

You must care because most of your posts to me were about Clinton. merrily Feb 2014 #159

That ProSense Feb 2014 #162

I have no idea what it had to do with in post after post from you. merrily Feb 2014 #164

Yep... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #94

I don't worship any POTUS. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #98

I hope you don't think... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #99

Not at all. I was just clarifying my opinion. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #103

Sanders does an excellent job spelling out why he voted for it - it does substantial good karynnj Feb 2014 #20

I take issue ProSense Feb 2014 #22

Quite agree with you on Berg's attempt to excuse welfare reform karynnj Feb 2014 #25

Sanders is one Indie Senator of 100. Obama is one President and Dem Party head of one. merrily Feb 2014 #146

In the end Senator Sanders always let's you down. gLibDem Feb 2014 #52

Well, bully for Vermont. Beacool Feb 2014 #56

This is one neither Congress nor the President gets a pass on, merrily Feb 2014 #137

It is NOT being "spineless," call it for what it is, THEY ARE BOUGHT OFF!!! Dustlawyer Feb 2014 #17

Read Bernie's statement karynnj Feb 2014 #24

It is a cruel jest to say jsr Feb 2014 #19

Effects of Welfare reform, ProSense Feb 2014 #21

Only Obama apologists allowed? Armstead Feb 2014 #27

Please ProSense Feb 2014 #29

It was in there. But I guess once you saw the word Obama the auto-pilot kicked in Armstead Feb 2014 #33

No, ProSense Feb 2014 #34

A hypothetical question.. Armstead Feb 2014 #36

You think ProSense Feb 2014 #38

No I don't agree with him on that -- But it's not all-or-nothing Armstead Feb 2014 #74

That's hilarious ProSense Feb 2014 #80

No I'm saying you do that either/or stuff Armstead Feb 2014 #89

No, ProSense Feb 2014 #97

As I said before, your criticism is legitimate but I agree with his larger point Armstead Feb 2014 #105

Heh. Hissyspit Feb 2014 #26

Depressing K&R. bullwinkle428 Feb 2014 #28

It really is hopeless Cosmocat Feb 2014 #65

Charlie Pierce wrote a great piece on this apathy regarding our health-care system bullwinkle428 Feb 2014 #75

Worst gosh darn Cosmocat Feb 2014 #190

Democrats are not spineless. merrily Feb 2014 #175

Yeah Cosmocat Feb 2014 #191

Food Fight! Clintonians vs. Obamanians! MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #35

LOL! ProSense Feb 2014 #41

Hey, shouldn't you be telling us how progressive Warren and Sanders are for voting for this bill? Beacool Feb 2014 #64

Warren didn't vote for the bill. n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #70

I stand corrected. Beacool Feb 2014 #73

Hungry? Fuck you! Need money for war? No problem! L0oniX Feb 2014 #40

Someone else said "We traded civility for corruption" Corruption Inc Feb 2014 #49

Are the last paragraph truthful? Trillo Feb 2014 #58

I did not move to the city until 1985. ieoeja Feb 2014 #108

In a nutshell, and exactly what the oligarchy wants, non-action, they thrive & prosper and mother earth Feb 2014 #66

don't drag progressives into this, asshole.. frylock Feb 2014 #69

when progressives like my reps vote for this shit, they should be called out cali Feb 2014 #84

the comment wasn't directed toward you frylock Feb 2014 #85

Economy of language used properly. nt Eleanors38 Feb 2014 #71

It is interesting to me that Republicans are wiling to pass the farm bill which funds crop JDPriestly Feb 2014 #72

Except PsychGrad Feb 2014 #101

If this money was going to "farmers".. sendero Feb 2014 #182

Yeah. PsychGrad Feb 2014 #184

KR El_Johns Feb 2014 #78

I'd call that inaccurate stupidicus Feb 2014 #88

Quick side question sadoldgirl Feb 2014 #90

President and Congressional Dems ,,, Cryptoad Feb 2014 #91

I'm sorry...... DeSwiss Feb 2014 #92

Wow, air conditioned tents in the desert. zeemike Feb 2014 #113

Tents with the doors open! Phlem Feb 2014 #154

THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS! BrotherIvan Feb 2014 #116

Been that way for a very long while... villager Feb 2014 #104

"History has tried to teach us that we can't have good government under politicians Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #106

If by 'evil' you mean a government in service to the richest people in the world... Octafish Feb 2014 #112

with a plentiful helping of delusional on "both" "sides" to keep the state of affairs going MisterP Feb 2014 #114

Agreed colsohlibgal Feb 2014 #118

kicking sadly. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #119

Evil, a four-letter word that best describes this type of right-winged-soused governance indepat Feb 2014 #124

Actually it's more like psychotic vs pragmatic. DCBob Feb 2014 #130

If pragmatic means assuming that anything that Democrats do or Obama does merrily Feb 2014 #152

Or, in more "practical" terms: "Not as bad" versus "Worse". Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #139

Yup. That's why I voted for Kucinich. flvegan Feb 2014 #163

So, does Mr. Berg think that it's a good thing or a bad thing? blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #167

Spineless? When has government ever been spineless? merrily Feb 2014 #169

just about sums it up frwrfpos Feb 2014 #177

He is absolutely correct AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #178

K&R cprise Feb 2014 #185