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sarisataka

(18,655 posts)
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:43 PM Jan 2014

Children, guns, education... looking for input [View all]

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In advance of the 20/20 report tomorrow night I have been asked by a local school about options for gun safety education for children (I contract with the school as a security/safety consultant). I informed them that essentially the only program out there is the NRA's Eddie Eagle. While not rejecting it absolutely, the admin is hesitant to use NRA material as it could be seen as having a bias- the program may be mandatory, opt-in or opt-out, TBD but they want high participation with the support of parents.

So to wishing a politically neutral, safety oriented program, they have asked me to develop a proposal and plan for teaching the children. I of course said no problem, but my background is in adult education. I am trying to drop all of my pre-conceived notions and ideas and create the best program possible.

My question is, what would you all here on DU like a gun safety course for children to include?

-School is pre-K to 8th grade, so it may require several variants to account for age.
-It would be preferred to mesh with the current school day so taught in a 20 or 60 minute block, multiple blocks may be available but a single session is ideal.
-Student body is racially and ethnically diverse, living mostly in a middle class first tier suburb.

Thanks in advance for any/all input

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The silence is deafening. nt clarice Jan 2014 #1
You waited a whole 4 minutes to post that response... NutmegYankee Jan 2014 #23
The Eddie Eagle program is superb MO_Moderate Jan 2014 #2
does Eddie the Eagle teach that lead shot harms the environment? CreekDog Jan 2014 #42
Eddie Eagle is politically neutral, but probably too simple for >3rd grade. X_Digger Jan 2014 #3
Ideas from me to consider. Half-Century Man Jan 2014 #4
Fuck that upaloopa Jan 2014 #32
The basic fundamentals of gun safety should be taught to all kids Throd Jan 2014 #5
Contact Ray Miltenberger aikoaiko Jan 2014 #6
He sounds like a good resource sarisataka Jan 2014 #9
He's one of the few people who does actually testing... aikoaiko Jan 2014 #12
The criticism of the program is that it does not work kcr Jan 2014 #7
While the goal is zero injuries sarisataka Jan 2014 #10
But sex education actually works. kcr Jan 2014 #14
No gun? sarisataka Jan 2014 #15
Adults should be responsible kcr Jan 2014 #18
While this is a bit of a tangent sarisataka Jan 2014 #21
Include guns in the teaching of safety but not as an separate item upaloopa Jan 2014 #33
For one thing, many of those poisons are necessary for households kcr Jan 2014 #40
So, you're saying that it doesn't work, but you offer NO proof, so we shouldn't teach safety at all? NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #16
Twisty twisty twisty kcr Jan 2014 #19
Well, if only we could send you and your gun safety teachings into every home in America. NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #20
the thing is, kids are taught that. Then they do it anyway when no one is looking kcr Jan 2014 #26
You don't seem to have a lot of faith in teachers, yet you say you can teach them how to behave. NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #30
Why does it seem like I have no faith in teachers? kcr Jan 2014 #37
when I teach adult firearms courses sarisataka Jan 2014 #49
How about teaching kids the dangers of lead and pollution from shooting? CreekDog Jan 2014 #31
I would support that. NYC_SKP Jan 2014 #53
You bring a gun into your home you also bring upaloopa Jan 2014 #36
So your kids had no friends and never played in the park? The Straight Story Jan 2014 #22
Now this is just downright hysterical kcr Jan 2014 #34
The Eddie Eagle program is solid... Lost_Count Jan 2014 #8
I have ordered EE materials sarisataka Jan 2014 #11
Speaking as a former 8th grader, my answer is "lots of range time!" petronius Jan 2014 #13
While I like range time... sarisataka Jan 2014 #17
I think people should be able to opt their kids out of a pro gun class CreekDog Jan 2014 #28
The goal is to be niether sarisataka Jan 2014 #43
would you teach about lead pollution from ammunition and shooting in the class? CreekDog Jan 2014 #44
I think that would be more for sarisataka Jan 2014 #48
What about kids whise parents don't want their kids shooting? CreekDog Jan 2014 #29
I don't think there should/need be any shooting at all in a safety course petronius Jan 2014 #35
there should be no shooting involving children unless the ammunition is lead free CreekDog Jan 2014 #41
Minimizing children's exposure to lead is a very good idea, yes... (nt) petronius Jan 2014 #46
require the parents to attend also. nt G_j Jan 2014 #24
The idea of a parent-child class sarisataka Jan 2014 #27
i wouldn't attend a pro-gun class CreekDog Jan 2014 #39
It is pro-safety, not pro-gun. Throd Jan 2014 #47
Teach them that guns are dangerous. CreekDog Jan 2014 #25
Teachers and staff can say that every day, and do HockeyMom Jan 2014 #38
That is the two sentence summary sarisataka Jan 2014 #45
Keep your guns locked up and away from kids BainsBane Jan 2014 #50
Where I live, there's the Oakland County Sportsmens club. notadmblnd Jan 2014 #51
Here is a link to a separate program from EE it's called childsafe. It's sponsored by the Nat's okaawhatever Jan 2014 #52
I really hope this is a joke thread. lindysalsagal Jan 2014 #54
Best to keep them ignorant. Throd Jan 2014 #55
Locked Sissyk Jan 2014 #56
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