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cui bono

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82. What? You need to adjust the brightness and contrast on your monitor then.

Reply to butterfly77 (Reply #29)

Tue Jan 28, 2014, 12:39 AM

Jan 2014

There's no mistaking him for anything other than an old white man.

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WV man, white, 62, shoots, kills two black brothers, 60 & 61, for visiting their own property [View all] Adenoid_Hynkel Jan 2014 OP

Sad, but not surprising. ForgoTheConsequence Jan 2014 #1

+1. Hoyt Jan 2014 #5

Or you know.... ForgoTheConsequence Jan 2014 #6

There's a gun shop near me that puts videos on Internet. One video Hoyt Jan 2014 #8

Do you have a link exboyfil Jan 2014 #48

Seconded (nt) JJChambers Jan 2014 #53

Here's what I found. atreides1 Jan 2014 #157

Yeah Hoyt, I'm calling bs, too. pintobean Jan 2014 #55

You wade through bigoted videos at Moss Pawn and Gun. Hoyt Jan 2014 #70

Still waiting JJChambers Jan 2014 #73

I gave you name of place, they have a bunch of videos that I bet Hoyt Jan 2014 #74

That's what I thought (nt) JJChambers Jan 2014 #75

Found one geomon666 Jan 2014 #97

Where did they go? Hoyt Jan 2014 #98

Looks like all the little gunners and Kingofalldems Jan 2014 #123

LMAO. Too busy clutching their gunz. Hoyt Jan 2014 #142

Let's give them another chance. Maybe they just haven't seen it yet, so I'll kick this back to pg 1. Electric Monk Jan 2014 #167

Yeah, I saw it. pintobean Jan 2014 #168

Maybe you could provide some links to gun stores that promote liberal causes. Hoyt Jan 2014 #170

Maybe not. pintobean Jan 2014 #171

Exactly, gun stores by and large cater to racist, white wingers. Hoyt Jan 2014 #172

Of course you believe that. pintobean Jan 2014 #174

I'd say well over 50%. Otherwise, you'd see gun stores catering to the progressive crowd. Hoyt Jan 2014 #175

Transcript from 5:08 to 5:17 Electric Monk Jan 2014 #99

Yeah how can anybody think that's a good thing to say? hollowdweller Jan 2014 #189

ow NoGOPZone Jan 2014 #186

See post #97. Electric Monk Jan 2014 #102

Looks like it's downthread. Kingofalldems Jan 2014 #124

hey, where did you go? you demanded some evidence and Hoyt gave you what you asked for? CreekDog Mar 2014 #199

there isn't much diversity in most organizations Kali Jan 2014 #59

Sorry, been to enough gun shows, stores, ranges, etc., to know bigoted yahoos are vast majority of Hoyt Jan 2014 #66

So JJChambers Jan 2014 #67

Just did JC. Get back with us after you get your jollies. Hoyt Jan 2014 #71

Do you still own a gun or when did you get rid of the last one? snooper2 Jan 2014 #144

making stuff up again Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #77

I have a hard time believing that one too. nt 7962 Jan 2014 #93

Oops. Guess you were wrong. Kingofalldems Jan 2014 #176

Yep, I see he posted a video. That one guy ought to go to jail just for the beard. nt 7962 Jan 2014 #182

See post #97, then you can apologize to Hoyt for calling him a liar. Electric Monk Jan 2014 #100

Very good article. Thank you for posting that. Number23 Jan 2014 #27

Dupe - More rocktivity Jan 2014 #2

Thank the NRA and ReTHUGs for tolerating this shite malaise Jan 2014 #3

I hadn't realized the victims were black. Baitball Blogger Jan 2014 #4

Same here. KeepItReal Jan 2014 #14

Me too. n/t GP6971 Jan 2014 #44

But the shooter could recognize they were black through his scope. Enthusiast Jan 2014 #108

Me neither - wasn't clear during yesterday's coverage hatrack Jan 2014 #114

this guy is typical of most gun people JI7 Jan 2014 #7

What are "gun people" pintobean Jan 2014 #17

the shooter in the OP JI7 Jan 2014 #21

Gun people are those that will try to change the subject of a thread A Simple Game Jan 2014 #38

Threads go off topic all the time. pintobean Jan 2014 #41

and there you go... RetroLounge Jan 2014 #49

Go find a post of mine in the gungeon. pintobean Jan 2014 #52

"Your asking about the ones..." RetroLounge Jan 2014 #54

. pintobean Jan 2014 #57

You're right, I was just being silly, now let's all try to get back on subject. A Simple Game Jan 2014 #128

Buy up all the bullets. pintobean Jan 2014 #137

Do you hate the people on DU that acknowledge there is a gun problem as much A Simple Game Jan 2014 #139

It was a joke. I don't hate anyone. pintobean Jan 2014 #140

Of course it was a joke, how unperceptive of me. n/t A Simple Game Jan 2014 #145

Here pintobean Jan 2014 #160

And so you prove me right once again, do anything to prevent harm to the ability to buy guns. n/t A Simple Game Jan 2014 #162

Lol. pintobean Jan 2014 #163

Lol? No not lol, maybe you don't care, you don't seem to, but people are dying, every day! n/t A Simple Game Jan 2014 #165

So... Lost_Count Jan 2014 #61

That's a really stupid statement. It adds nothing to any serious discussion. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #62

I'm a gun person hollowdweller Jan 2014 #191

Yes! kcr Jan 2014 #198

LOL at the Sheriff saying race had nothing to do with it.... Blue_Tires Jan 2014 #9

Yeah right hollowdweller Jan 2014 #192

murder...plain and simple noiretextatique Jan 2014 #10

Dammit, two nice men minding *their own* business, on *their own* property. freshwest Jan 2014 #11

Wait just a minute. You mean shooting someone at 100 yards with a high rhett o rick Jan 2014 #12

I WUZ SKURRED! Scootaloo Jan 2014 #13

Peeps gotta do something with all that sniper preparation. Hoyt Jan 2014 #72

Well, they were kind of suspicious looking AAO Jan 2014 #15

The shooter looks black too.. butterfly77 Jan 2014 #29

Maybe the op has been updated since you typed that, MH1 Jan 2014 #30

I'm looking at the edits and it looks like the same picture kcr Jan 2014 #34

He looks white to me nt LiberalElite Jan 2014 #32

maybe you just saw the 2 brothers pics ? the shooter looks white , not even mixed, just white JI7 Jan 2014 #43

What? You need to adjust the brightness and contrast on your monitor then. cui bono Jan 2014 #82

Huh? hatrack Jan 2014 #115

Assuming the facts are all correct, Jenoch Jan 2014 #16

Yup. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #28

Right, and I hope the killer gets life. nt raccoon Jan 2014 #122

In his warped mind it did n/t doc03 Jan 2014 #47

I knew the US was in the toilet back in the 90s when I saw a gun shop right valerief Jan 2014 #18

We have gun shows at the local High School gym riversedge Jan 2014 #106

I don't know. I don't look for gun shows or high schools. nt valerief Jan 2014 #161

Old men HockeyMom Jan 2014 #19

That's How Guns are Marketed ninjanurse Jan 2014 #25

Oh thanks for stereotyping anyone 61 years old as being doc03 Jan 2014 #56

I don't care if you are an old woman, I resent that remark. I am almost 66 doc03 Jan 2014 #51

Maybe POWERFUL HockeyMom Jan 2014 #158

:( tofuandbeer Jan 2014 #20

Here's the image of the murder victims. pintobean Jan 2014 #22

Yup, I can tell these guys were gangster thugs just by looking at them. Deep13 Jan 2014 #39

Garrick and Carl look terribly threatening, not like the nice man with the rifle. "Good guys with Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #23

He didn't like blacks near him, I suppose. He'll be educated about that in prison. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #24

I'm sure Mr Black was an ordinary law abiding gun owner until this past weekend. Lucky Luciano Jan 2014 #26

Why the need to point out the killers race? Was it done with the mall shooter OP or their victims? 7962 Jan 2014 #31

go ahead heaven05 Jan 2014 #37

Since no stats will be true according to you, it might be tough to prove anything to you. 7962 Jan 2014 #50

Took the words out of my mouth AnalystInParadise Jan 2014 #60

right heaven05 Jan 2014 #130

So now AnalystInParadise Jan 2014 #196

The only way for his argument to be right is for everything else to be made up and me be a liar. 7962 Jan 2014 #197

Whites get away with it a lot more, stand your ground laws were pushed by Hoyt Jan 2014 #101

And this crime will have nothing to do with "SYG". He'll never be allowed to use that as a defense. 7962 Jan 2014 #111

look heaven05 Jan 2014 #129

Wow AnalystInParadise Jan 2014 #58

like i said heaven05 Jan 2014 #131

He shot them because he is white and they were black. Deep13 Jan 2014 #40

Nowhere in the article does it state him saying any such thing. 7962 Jan 2014 #42

So? nt Deep13 Jan 2014 #79

So?... You stated your "opinion" as a fact, and its not evidenced in the article or any other. 7962 Jan 2014 #88

Wow... Lost_Count Jan 2014 #63

Recognizing that racism exists is not the same as ... Deep13 Jan 2014 #85

Well and good... Lost_Count Jan 2014 #107

Really? linuxman Jan 2014 #64

I'm not going to argue with someone with a clearly limited understanding of history. nt Deep13 Jan 2014 #83

Well... linuxman Jan 2014 #89

Yes, and history shows that blacks are much, much more likely to kill whites than vice versa. 7962 Jan 2014 #91

you really need to study more heaven05 Jan 2014 #152

Man, it must be tough to have a chip that size on your shoulder! 7962 Jan 2014 #173

all my rebuttals to your woeful ignorance heaven05 Jan 2014 #187

A true racist still wouldnt vote for obama,like those who wouldnt accept a black doctor 7962 Jan 2014 #188

and that history is still marching heaven05 Jan 2014 #132

I have to say I agree with you. cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #148

If he were a REAL gun nut, race wouldn't have mattered, he'd have shot the two hughee99 Jan 2014 #68

Gun nuts are so because they fear the Other... Deep13 Jan 2014 #80

Old white gun nuts could fear anyone. hughee99 Jan 2014 #84

You don't actually have any evidence for that assertion, do you? Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2014 #105

because many think it's ok for white guys to shoot black people because some other black person JI7 Jan 2014 #46

Nailed it with this line: cui bono Jan 2014 #87

Accurate. Enthusiast Jan 2014 #109

Crime stats or arrests/conviction stats? cui bono Jan 2014 #86

OMG, read what I posted. Dont change the subject. 7962 Jan 2014 #120

Re: Post 120 Eve60 Jan 2014 #169

I could name folks, but you'd just say I googled it. 7962 Jan 2014 #178

Let's say what you say is true, even without you providing stats. cui bono Jan 2014 #181

FBI statistics. There are links provided as well as stories citing the same. 7962 Jan 2014 #183

I really think you are lacking the big picture view on this subject. cui bono Jan 2014 #184

He never tried to shoot any of the white intheflow Jan 2014 #95

Race matters, especially in this case. morningfog Jan 2014 #112

If you think their being black did not have anything to do with this white asshole deciding to shoot CBGLuthier Jan 2014 #117

Right on cue. Iggo Jan 2014 #127

I Do Not See Why You Are Upset erpowers Jan 2014 #134

LOL. nt La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2014 #179

My guess druidity33 Jan 2014 #190

this is really sickening heaven05 Jan 2014 #33

Did Black know the property had been sold? siligut Jan 2014 #35

But they were suspicious-looking, being all black and all. nt Deep13 Jan 2014 #36

black men. . .shot? by a white guy? Standing his ground on someone else's property Nanjing to Seoul Jan 2014 #45

Looks like an open-and-shut case of murder (unless Black is severely mentally ill). Vattel Jan 2014 #65

Murder one, guilty, next. linuxman Jan 2014 #69

I'm going to guess that race was a factor in this one n/t taught_me_patience Jan 2014 #76

Interesting because I didn't get that the victims were black from the other thread on this. cui bono Jan 2014 #78

Because the writer of this OP decided to make that the issue. Its not mentioned in the article; 7962 Jan 2014 #92

Well it's pretty clear the murderer was racist based on where they all were when he chose cui bono Jan 2014 #94

Of course its a problem. Its a problem in most countries. But its a minority of thought here. 7962 Jan 2014 #110

You're right. We shouldn't blame racism. Racism is awesome. morningfog Jan 2014 #113

Thats very mature of you. Where have I defended racism? Racists are a boil on society. 7962 Jan 2014 #118

The focus should be the crime, the racist killing of two morningfog Jan 2014 #125

I'll add this: morningfog Jan 2014 #126

And the fact that the shooter was white and the victims black doesnt make it a race crime. 7962 Jan 2014 #135

"minority of thought" heaven05 Jan 2014 #133

What makes this a crime cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #147

jaysus. what a load of crap. let's parse, shall we? the guy looks capable of shooting anyone? cali Jan 2014 #164

By that, I meant that he shot them from inside his house, never went out, never said anything, 7962 Jan 2014 #166

You are making false conclusions when you reverse the scenario. cui bono Jan 2014 #177

This message was self-deleted by its author ecstatic Jan 2014 #159

Trespassing is not a capital offense, even if it had occurred. Warpy Jan 2014 #81

Trespass alone is no grounds for gunfire. flvegan Jan 2014 #90

I agree with everyrhing you wrote Jenoch Jan 2014 #96

Has the killer claimed he was standing his ground and afraid workinclasszero Jan 2014 #103

"claimed he was stopping a break-in on what he said was his property" from the OP. nt Electric Monk Jan 2014 #104

No, just "stopping a break in" on what wasnt even his property. Dont think he can use SYG. 7962 Jan 2014 #121

you're being disingenuous heaven05 Jan 2014 #136

Horsehockey. I didnt look. Now I have and he cant use it as a defense. 7962 Jan 2014 #138

well at least heaven05 Jan 2014 #141

SMH Mr Dixon Jan 2014 #116

rescind the 2nd amendment, now! n/t PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #119

I think I'm going to throw up. warrior1 Jan 2014 #143

Local paper write up PRETZEL Jan 2014 #146

So even if this delusional gun humper thought he owned this property workinclasszero Jan 2014 #149

No PRETZEL Jan 2014 #150

Hey were they wearing hoodies? workinclasszero Jan 2014 #156

RE: THE ISSUE IS RACISM NOT GUN CONTROL Eve60 Jan 2014 #151

RE: THE ISSUE IS RACISM NOT GUN CONTROL Eve60 Jan 2014 #154

This is not about race Tracey74 Jan 2014 #193

How can you say it is not about race - TBF Jan 2014 #194

You joined DU to defend this guy? pintobean Jan 2014 #195

Agree. Welcome to DU! cui bono Jan 2014 #185

Racist old fart. HappyMe Jan 2014 #153

If you're using a scope, you're "hunting", not "protecting". n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #155

Assassinating. pintobean Jan 2014 #180