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polly7

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65. Just ....... why?

Tue Jan 21, 2014, 12:47 PM

Jan 2014

Last edited Tue Jan 21, 2014, 02:50 PM - Edit history (1)

Edited, because I've just read this on the other thread.

"Ms Zhukova's publicist blasted the use of the image on MLK day and said her client has a strong record of promoting diversity. She said it was 'regrettable' that the image of the chair by Norwegian artist Bjarne Melgaard had been used on such a sensitive day by the blog, and pointed out that such a use took the work completely out of context.

Ms Zhukova herself added: 'This photograph, which has been published completely out of context, is of an art work intended specifically as a commentary on gender and racial politics."

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Russian oligarch's girlfriend sparks MLK day firestorm after posing on naked 'black woman' chair for [View all] Beacool Jan 2014 OP

Christ. joshcryer Jan 2014 #1

Exactly!! Beacool Jan 2014 #2

I can't say her motives but the look on her face is tepid. joshcryer Jan 2014 #7

A lot of these fashion people want to be edgy, but this pic crossed the line. Beacool Jan 2014 #9

that was my feeling Skittles Jan 2014 #32

Which raises real questions about what porn sites Putin visits. Ken Burch Jan 2014 #23

Heh, Abramovich literally put Putin into power. joshcryer Jan 2014 #24

I sure as hell HOPE Biden and Obama don't share "jokes" like this. Ken Burch Jan 2014 #25

Whoa now. joshcryer Jan 2014 #27

Of course it shouldn't. Ken Burch Jan 2014 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author JustAnotherGen Jan 2014 #56

The first word out of my mouth. liberalmuse Jan 2014 #18

Too much money. morningfog Jan 2014 #3

And too little common sense. Beacool Jan 2014 #4

The 1% clearly need more money... Barack_America Jan 2014 #54

Not just offensive, but honestly one of the most bizarre things I've ever seen... nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #5

It's stupid and tasteless, but it was not an actual person being sat on. morningfog Jan 2014 #6

Me too. Beacool Jan 2014 #8

It's racist and sexist, but it's porny. See the strap around her? It's BDSM, so it's ok. redqueen Jan 2014 #10

The mannequin hands are free. joshcryer Jan 2014 #11

It's fucking disgusting. El_Johns Jan 2014 #16

+1 freshwest Jan 2014 #29

Torture and racism. Rememeber what Bashir got fired for? What slaveholders did is okay now? n/t freshwest Jan 2014 #28

actually DonCoquixote Jan 2014 #34

agreed. it's about power. complete power. magical thyme Jan 2014 #45

Did someone call it porn? I didn't. I said it was porny. Porn is increasingly redqueen Jan 2014 #48

Interesting that you see this as porn redqueen. bluesbassman Jan 2014 #42

porn can be many things including illegal like child porn JI7 Jan 2014 #43

I don't "see it as porn". nt redqueen Jan 2014 #49

I see. So wahat was your purpose in describing it as such? n/t bluesbassman Jan 2014 #67

post 48 redqueen Jan 2014 #69

Nice try, but of course you called it porn. bluesbassman Jan 2014 #77

LOL! Quote me. Quote the part where I called it porn. redqueen Jan 2014 #80

It is called the English language joeglow3 Jan 2014 #95

No, it's called an incorrect inference based on prejudice. redqueen Jan 2014 #99

So you have now made the leap to "prejudice"? bluesbassman Jan 2014 #104

"Predudice" is also a term for "bias" R B Garr Jan 2014 #107

Right. Well you can continue believing that if it makes you feel better. bluesbassman Jan 2014 #109

LOL, I knew when I saw a reply to this that it was most likely gonna be an ignorant overreaction to redqueen Jan 2014 #110

You're on a roll. Nice dig. I may be ignorant, but I can read and comprehend. bluesbassman Jan 2014 #113

I said the OVERREACTION was ignorant, not you. redqueen Jan 2014 #114

There you go again. You are parsing a descriptively contrived ending to a word R B Garr Jan 2014 #115

And what agenda is that? R B Garr Jan 2014 #102

It's only obvious to those who want it to be obvious. bluesbassman Jan 2014 #103

What about the other agenda -- overly parsing words and intended meanings R B Garr Jan 2014 #105

See my post #106. I "parsed" nothing. n/t bluesbassman Jan 2014 #108

The artist who created this chair recreated this chair and other pieces originally created by Allen seaglass Jan 2014 #79

*crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* *crickets* redqueen Jan 2014 #87

Forniphilia, eh? Lunacee_2013 Jan 2014 #91

What is interesting is that if this same 'art' was presented as erotica, and not redqueen Jan 2014 #92

Here's Jones's original pieces REP Jan 2014 #117

deleted because I already said this. lol n/t seaglass Jan 2014 #93

Learned a new word today - forniphilia - a form of bondage and sexual objectification in which a seaglass Jan 2014 #70

Given that, I'm surprised these threads aren't overrun with the usual defenders. nt redqueen Jan 2014 #72

Well, at least one is here. n/t seaglass Jan 2014 #76

I think that woman is just a willing cohort who deserves a pat on the head The Straight Story Jan 2014 #74

" They are powerless because the men of du are all misogynists (ie, hate women)" redqueen Jan 2014 #89

Lol, I know, right! Lunacee_2013 Jan 2014 #100

There are so many fucked up attitudes in this world Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #12

I agree. Beacool Jan 2014 #17

I don't know anyone who wouldn't have *run away* if they saw that! n/t freshwest Jan 2014 #30

Is this what the fuck rich people spend their money on? JaneyVee Jan 2014 #13

Not all rich people, just these two idiots. Beacool Jan 2014 #15

A friend of mine has been to this dude's house a lot AngryAmish Jan 2014 #83

An obscenity. An argument for redistribution and tumbrels. Sick people. El_Johns Jan 2014 #14

Russian oligarch's Russian girlfriend posts really questionable photo, full stop. Spider Jerusalem Jan 2014 #19

Some people just have no taste. Lunacee_2013 Jan 2014 #20

+1 freshwest Jan 2014 #31

^^^ yes. This is the absolute kindest interpretation of the photo possible. ^^^ Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #78

I'm speechless MrScorpio Jan 2014 #21

"MLK Day is two weeks later on Eastern calendar" Ken Burch Jan 2014 #22

What the hell is wrong with people? Are they on drugs? What Bullshit! n/t freshwest Jan 2014 #26

That's disgusting, no doubt but not a new concept. cali Jan 2014 #35

Hadn't heard of him before. This is what it reminded me of Revanchist Jan 2014 #41

There's a white version of that atrocity? Beacool Jan 2014 #63

rupert carabin was a famous art nouveau artist cali Jan 2014 #98

I'm not talking about Carabin's work. Beacool Jan 2014 #112

I'm sorry, this is really quite offensive, but is there something ambiguous about 'Oligarch'? Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #36

Russia is where the term oligarch originates, afaik. joshcryer Jan 2014 #37

I think we can all grant it's a weird chair CFLDem Jan 2014 #38

a black woman chair is more offensive because of history cali Jan 2014 #39

Redqueen's point above has been validated. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #46

Not from what that post said. That person's post did not suggest he found it sexy/porny at all. stevenleser Jan 2014 #50

the person defended something that sexually degrades black women geek tragedy Jan 2014 #58

At least the racism is considered a problem, at least. redqueen Jan 2014 #51

There IS a white version of that chair. Beacool Jan 2014 #64

For those here who are soccer fans... regnaD kciN Jan 2014 #40

I'm shocked! Shocked! redqueen Jan 2014 #53

Reminds me of the scene in "A Clockwork Orange". Waiting For Everyman Jan 2014 #44

It doesn't look very comfortable.. Jesus Malverde Jan 2014 #47

Damn Rich People! MineralMan Jan 2014 #52

Maybe it's "A Major Award" catbyte Jan 2014 #55

Did you see her feet! Must be size 13 and butt ugly. n/t Hotler Jan 2014 #57

sick warrior1 Jan 2014 #59

meh tavernier Jan 2014 #60

Dasha Zhukova spent many years in CA, private schools and UC Santa Barbara Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #61

Yes, she should have known better. Beacool Jan 2014 #75

That is so offensive mcar Jan 2014 #62

Just ....... why? polly7 Jan 2014 #65

What 'context' did she think being photographed in it gave? muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #88

It's in the post you replied to. polly7 Jan 2014 #90

I still can't see what the context is that makes it bad to use it to illustrate her muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #94

I don't know. polly7 Jan 2014 #96

Also offensive, defining a woman by who her partner is instead of by her own name. Coyotl Jan 2014 #66

He's famous, she isn't muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #85

So, there is no news here, just celebs to talk about, no real issue or people. Coyotl Jan 2014 #116

Do you mean 'name of the chair', or 'name of the woman who posed for it'? muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #119

Wow. I can't even begin to describe the awful stuff in that image cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #68

It is disgusting. n/t seaglass Jan 2014 #71

Stay classy, Chelsea LittleBlue Jan 2014 #73

You can't blame Chelsea football club for what the owner's partner does (nt) muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #86

Aside from the disgusting image in the foreground 2naSalit Jan 2014 #81

I know .... what are those things in front? polly7 Jan 2014 #82

Look like mirrors to me. dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #84

It reminds me a bit of the movie Bob & Carol Ted & Alice jakeXT Jan 2014 #120

disgustingly racist Liberal_in_LA Jan 2014 #97

Be disgusted if you want, but it is art hueymahl Jan 2014 #101

Exactly. bluesbassman Jan 2014 #106

so what? does that give it some sort of special dispensation? cali Jan 2014 #111

Here's a pic of the original chair this one was based on. Beacool Jan 2014 #118