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In reply to the discussion: Can we please put the discussion, whether the US is a police-state, to rest? [View all]reddread
(6,896 posts)106. you never loved criminal lovers, anyway
right?
here's the deal for the breathlessly faithful-
we CANNOT have anything without justice.
not that retribution shit the crooks dish out,
the justice Peace and Equity require.
focus, and dont settle.
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Can we please put the discussion, whether the US is a police-state, to rest? [View all]
DetlefK
Jan 2014
OP
We just had a cop here locally who had two incidents one for fighting and getting thrown out
liberal_at_heart
Jan 2014
#4
In a real "police state" you would be arrested and dragged away just for posting that (nt)
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#5
If someone in 1937 in a Berlin coffee shop had started whining about living in a "police state"
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#27
Unfortunately, I do not have the time to research and present my case properly on this...
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#29
No, you wouldn't. That is a fallacy about how police states operate. Perhaps you read more
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#46
Sure, police states are nothing if not determined to APPEAR to be fair. Has Stop and Frisk ended
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#69
And the liberal and progressive new mayor promptly hired the shithead who
Warren Stupidity
Jan 2014
#100
We need a national commission on law enforcement standards and practices.
Comrade Grumpy
Jan 2014
#7
A police state by any other measure, is still a police state. If you think we're not already
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#19
Oh, I don't know...maybe since the Vietnam (think Kent State) era. Probably before. You
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#22
I have friends in Moscow, none in N.Korea which is way, way worse than a police state, it is a
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#50
Well, here's one way to see why the US is increasingly viewed as a Police State as opposed
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#63
That's not the definition of a police state. And I agree we have an issue with police brutality and
stevenleser
Jan 2014
#16
I think that is exactly right. It's not a police state or Stasi state, its a violent culture.
stevenleser
Jan 2014
#28
We get the government we deserve, right? Do we get the law enforcement we deserve, too?
randome
Jan 2014
#44
Under the real Stasi, what do you think happened to people who publically complained about it? (nt)
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#33
Not only that, one of the defining characteristics of the STASI was their prolific recruitment of
stevenleser
Jan 2014
#51
As a child, I was taught East Germany was terrifying, as you were always under surveillance.
Romulox
Jan 2014
#32
Well for one thing you can stand in Times Square and throw insults about President Obama,
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#36
OK. But I am still under surveillance in my home and in all of my "private" communications.
Romulox
Jan 2014
#42
If the United States qualifies as a police state, the term has become utterly useless.
WatermelonRat
Jan 2014
#35
Yes, I recall Glenn Beck once making that very same analogy. I called BS then too.
WatermelonRat
Jan 2014
#55
You're right, that was improper on my part. I apologize for the undue snarkery.
WatermelonRat
Jan 2014
#73
Ah, now a "corporate controlled country" is very different from a "police state".
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#66
Constant, dragnet style spying on every American, in direct contravention of our founding principles
Romulox
Jan 2014
#48
It is wrong. Improper overreach fueled by the desire not to have the next 9/11 be on their watch.
WatermelonRat
Jan 2014
#82
Well, that's another formerly useful term that DU has killed. "Police state" means nothing
Recursion
Jan 2014
#40
Wow 16 rounds into a man holding a cell phone, the fatal shots from BEHIND?
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2014
#57
Mass surveillance, secret laws, secret courts, indefinite detention, militarized police...
woo me with science
Jan 2014
#90
I'm surprised to read this from you. What you're saying is that yes, we have all the elements, but
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2014
#127
OK, go on down that road. How is it that you imagine we can not go through this arbitrary door?
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2014
#130
"a new kind of police state". Exactly. What purpose does arguing terminology serve, when the
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2014
#135
Yes, we can put it to rest: the answer is "of course not, don't be so silly".
Donald Ian Rankin
Jan 2014
#107
Yes. Words have meanings. Hyperbole doesn't make one's case stronger. Quite the opposite
stevenleser
Jan 2014
#131
Out of curiosity I asked Skinner whether law enforcement has ever asked for info on DUers
Nye Bevan
Jan 2014
#137