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Douglas Carpenter

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26. actually, on a purely personal level - as much as it is difficult to admit it on DU - I lean toward
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 10:36 AM
Jan 2014

believing in something that someone might call a higher power - for lack of better words. I have seen several post recently scorning any belief that might not be 100% certified by the American scientific establishment. But I am also aware that AA in general has a good reputation for being affective and helping a lot of people. - Even though they advocate something of a spiritual belief and a principle that would not necessarily meet the requirements of strictly orthodox atheistic scientific thinking. I wanted to see how those who reject anything outside of the strictest form of scientific orthodoxy would react to such a question. I am nonetheless absolutely gobsmacked that ANYONE could interpret my OP as ridiculing religion when anyone can see that if anything my point was the opposite.

Geez. Give it up already. HERVEPA Jan 2014 #1
I'm told it's whatever the individual wants it to be. eShirl Jan 2014 #2
It's "God." Don't buy into their b.s. Atman Jan 2014 #6
I Am a Long Time RobinA Jan 2014 #11
Oh, I don't disagree with you...but... Atman Jan 2014 #47
Don't worry, I don't buy it (the idea of it being non-religious). eShirl Jan 2014 #28
Yes but how does it work exactly? If you can't explain it then its woo. Its not scientific. riderinthestorm Jan 2014 #3
Religion is the ultimate woo... MellowDem Jan 2014 #4
Alcoholism is defined as a disease. One that many claim is cured by that belief riderinthestorm Jan 2014 #9
I've never known of any alcoholic who claimed to be cured. Heidi Jan 2014 #16
You're right of course riderinthestorm Jan 2014 #20
I Am RobinA Jan 2014 #35
No, we aren't ignoring it and yes, it's Woo. mr blur Jan 2014 #43
Nobody claims to be able to cure alcoholism, not even the invisible magical people. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #52
People claim all sorts of things... MellowDem Jan 2014 #60
This. Thread win. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #50
And, politics. One promises Nirvana after death the other "as soon as we control the govnernment". Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #57
I really don't know. HappyMe Jan 2014 #5
My grandfather was in AA when it started up, snpsmom Jan 2014 #7
I could care less. NCTraveler Jan 2014 #8
Religion is woo, eh? Iggo Jan 2014 #10
In many mercuryblues Jan 2014 #12
How many more people are you planning to make fun of, and scorn and sneer at? Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #13
I don't know what you are talking about Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #14
Silly me. Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #17
actually - the poiint I was making leaned more toward the opposite of what you seemed to assume I Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #19
Well, you wrote this: Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #22
actually, on a purely personal level - as much as it is difficult to admit it on DU - I lean toward Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #26
Okay, thanks for the additional info. I appreciate it. Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #31
I even read Brian Weiss' book too and passed on to a number of people Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #33
Did you like it? Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #36
oh yes, i liked it - although as with any book on such matters I read with an open yet skeptical Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #40
Thanks for the book recommendation. Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #46
yes it is woo AngryAmish Jan 2014 #15
So do some medicines - vicodin for example doesn't work for me. riderinthestorm Jan 2014 #18
Seriously. Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #23
I just don't get AA madokie Jan 2014 #21
I'm guessing he didn't say anything about eating it? eShirl Jan 2014 #32
Drug test madokie Jan 2014 #44
Does Bill claim predictable results? Recursion Jan 2014 #24
It's a support system created by a narcissist but that actually works for some people graywarrior Jan 2014 #25
This. cordelia Jan 2014 #29
Value in support system. None in substitute one addiction for another on point Jan 2014 #37
Yeah graywarrior Jan 2014 #45
This Is Where I Am RobinA Jan 2014 #38
I am beginning to become confused also get the red out Jan 2014 #27
Obvious woo. Just because certain stupidstitions are old doesn't mean true on point Jan 2014 #30
"Stupidstitions"? You must think you're very clever. cordelia Jan 2014 #34
You got that right. HappyMe Jan 2014 #41
No, religion is generally accepted treestar Jan 2014 #39
Yes Capt. Obvious Jan 2014 #42
It's pseudo-religious claptrap, at the very least. n/t X_Digger Jan 2014 #48
technically it's an "epistemological fulcrum" or a "first cause" MisterP Jan 2014 #49
yes! n/t wildbilln864 Jan 2014 #51
Yes! JVS Jan 2014 #53
How about refraining from trashing peoples' efforts to deal with a grim problem? Paladin Jan 2014 #54
I think so too. HappyMe Jan 2014 #55
please see post #26 Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #59
that was my point Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #58
Bailey told officers that he was the “first half-man/half-robot created by the government. rdharma Jan 2014 #56
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