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In reply to the discussion: Anti-woo commentators are a bunch of smug and condescending... [View all]Cha
(297,187 posts)291. Yeah, I don't get into these
scuffles but read them for entertainment purposes and once in awhile I'll chime in. But, I'm all about the natural healing for myself. I've been exposed to both and the allopathic route just doesn't work for me. So we do what works.
I say good for you helping yourself and your friends with remedies you make from plants. Does the burn healing one have Aloe in it? I have Aloes all over the place around here.. they are magical for healing burns!
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ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
OP
What do you know about me that causes you not to be shocked that I "fail to understand
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#2
You just made this post, underscoring that you failed to understand the difference.
eqfan592
Jan 2014
#9
Pointing out what you believe to misguidedness is one thing, it's how that bunch
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#20
You seem to be laboring under the assumption that the woo-believers are open to counter-evidence or
AtheistCrusader
Jan 2014
#423
The problem is that, often, people label "woo" those things that they disagree with.
Th1onein
Jan 2014
#38
Anecdotal is evidence. Indicative only, not definitive, but evidence.
Bernardo de La Paz
Jan 2014
#209
If you are unable to confirm a claim to expertise, your assertions based on that claim have no value
Android3.14
Jan 2014
#461
I think it smells a little fishy when someone requires that I post my name and other informaiton
Th1onein
Jan 2014
#462
It is their job, through the use of science--to prove their GM food is safe, before it passes FDA
Chrom
Jan 2014
#175
because of the way you, and other like minded woobashers, communicate in these threads.
Voice for Peace
Jan 2014
#71
Your word choices, tone, and general attitude to the OP have been classic bullying.
1monster
Jan 2014
#218
Going back and reading my posts, i don't think i once directly insulted the op.
eqfan592
Jan 2014
#384
If the treatments you're using have solid, peer reviewed evidence to support their viability...
eqfan592
Jan 2014
#379
The OP is correct. Always the same people too. Why do they care so much what choices other people
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#126
And they can make the same argument you are making. Science is fine but we know that science
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#202
I can give you links to the 'other side' also. Choosing a few devastating failures of science such
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#362
Also consider that peer review (especially in the medical sciences) appears to be broken...
Pholus
Jan 2014
#407
I don't "love" GMO foods. I simply note the misinformation spread by the anti GMO crowd.
eqfan592
Jan 2014
#377
GMO foods has to be the ultimate example of 'woo'. And finally, thankfully, the world has awoken
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#457
No, the fact that you think you know more than the entire scientific community is hubris.
eqfan592
Jan 2014
#401
Well you certainly proved the posters point about smug, condesending 1st responders
Katashi_itto
Jan 2014
#403
flame bait posters are a bunch of shit stirrers who have no interest in honest debate
cali
Jan 2014
#5
That sounds like an accusation. Are you innocent of posting flamebait, cali? n/t
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#13
Juror #6 is wrong. I'm not whining at all. I am merely making an observation. How you
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#30
Thank you, jury. I figured this would be alerted because that is what the anti-woo crowd does to
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#26
And your post #184 is also whining about DU. Also, you come in here months after I
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#364
I'm not pissed. I merely asked you to recognize that you are whining too and that you have no
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#368
My favorites are the ones who have to even disrupt in the Creative Spec forum.
Gidney N Cloyd
Jan 2014
#16
I'm not arguing the efficacy of woo. I'm saying that those who are anti-woo,
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#23
Who is controlling what is tested? Universities? Doctors? Dreaded Big Pharma?
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#70
I'm not saying anything is happening, I'm just questioning your assertion.
Voice for Peace
Jan 2014
#120
I would agree that money and big business corrupts the approval process...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#106
That's laughable. How in the world am I attacking the "clinical approval process"?
Th1onein
Jan 2014
#125
Bingo. NOT PROFITABLE does not equate to NOT EFFECTIVE. That is an inherent bias.
GoneFishin
Jan 2014
#345
Woo is pretty much anything that hasn't (yet) passed the test of science. And some of it
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#35
Then trash the woo thread and move on. Simple. But to purposely bully or make fun
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#32
Wrong. I've seen with my own eyes bullying and emoticons used as a way to laugh at people. Also,
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#37
Everyone on this board demeans the hateful worldviews of the righties and the homophobes.
Codeine
Jan 2014
#259
It's people like you that get put on my ignore list. Have fun bullying others. I won't
liberal_at_heart
Jan 2014
#416
The fact is that they don't know it isn't the weed until it's studied and as far as
Cleita
Jan 2014
#72
The reason for that is non-scientists interfered, marijuana was classified as a drug with...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#119
Actually it wasn't considered woo, it was considered untested or unproved...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#150
In the case of marijuana, yes, largely, though it is a outlier rather than something that is...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#189
you have dismissed the fact that medical mj was ever considered woo
questionseverything
Jan 2014
#228
But it wasn't considered woo, and the federal government is not necessarily swayed by facts...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#231
You also did not exclude herbal cures from your jargon 'woo'. Which is why the word sucks.
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2014
#174
No, eastern medicines are woo because there is little or no evidence to support them
intaglio
Jan 2014
#87
Your point? That has to do with access to health care, not quality of said care.
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#138
And again, that has to do with ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE. So again, your point?
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#146
That's stupid, does the East operate on a wholly different set of physical and biological laws?
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#153
You know modern healthcare in China is predominately western medicine right?
NuclearDem
Jan 2014
#392
No, you tell it to the millions who have died using arsenic and lead laced Ayurvedic medicines
intaglio
Jan 2014
#132
East/west doesn't figure into it. Treatment is either based in science or it is not.
Marr
Jan 2014
#134
So, you have a right to be completely full of crap, and convince others of it?
Mopar151
Jan 2014
#157
People are entitled to have opinions, but not to have those foolish opinions not laughed at!
on point
Jan 2014
#39
I know all about discussion boards. I've been on the Internet since the Compuserve/Prodigy days...
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#54
Some people are superior to other people. I am superior to anyone who believes in....
Logical
Jan 2014
#68
we all do. but finding out you aren't superior to others has nothing to do with aliens.
Voice for Peace
Jan 2014
#357
Actually, it has to metabolize in the body first, which can give the stomach conniption fits...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#78
Is the alternative medicine and supplemental industry non-profit all of the sudden?
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#83
Amazing to see a thirty BILLION dollar/year industry so beloved and defended
etherealtruth
Jan 2014
#107
I know, I don't get it, I do wonder how many of them are owned, either partially or wholly, by...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#114
I think the largest manufactureres of mulit-vits are subsidiaries of large pharma
etherealtruth
Jan 2014
#128
Then your answer is NO. You have NO Scientific Research that supports YOUR claim that
bvar22
Jan 2014
#470
Big Pharma is abusive, yes, but it doesn't invalidate centuries of western medicine.
NuclearDem
Jan 2014
#393
We have the obligation to contradict bad information. Bad health advice is dangerous.
LeftyMom
Jan 2014
#77
Omg!!! not long ago if you sugested that stomach ulcers were caused by bacteria
darkangel218
Jan 2014
#216
Oh, I agree. But treating those who promote potentially dangerous woo badly is not the way
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#130
Not by any scientific standard. Marijuana was demonized because powerful people wanted it to be.
NuclearDem
Jan 2014
#251
What balance? You have one side(science) that admits it doesn't know everything...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#141
My issue, as you can see by my replies in this thread, is with anti-woo rants and ranters.
Th1onein
Jan 2014
#325
Uhm, both chemicals you mentioned are used, widely in some cases, to treat a variety of ailments...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#324
Glutathione is an enzyme already present in our bodies, and direct absorption of it through pills...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#338
Actually, I just read Wikipedia, if its wrong, go ahead and correct it. n/t
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#344
Wikipedia is not a real good source. But I'm glad you admit where you got your info from.
Th1onein
Jan 2014
#348
Actually, its me who is wrong, its a tripeptide, a synthesis of some amino acids, its one of those..
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#350
It's obfuscation. They are mentally pointing at themselves saying, 'I know everything and I refuse
Lint Head
Jan 2014
#147
Please back up and reverse that, its the alternative medicine people who claim to know everything...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2014
#155
speaking as someone with no attachment to either woo or so-called skeptics,
paulkienitz
Jan 2014
#169
Yes, and during that time, Woo ruled - early scientists were trying to dispel woo.
hueymahl
Jan 2014
#285
You understand that the person making the outlandish claim is the one who needs the proof?......
Logical
Jan 2014
#238
Send me your best current evidence that aliens have visited earth. I will read it. n-t
Logical
Jan 2014
#257
Proof is not speculating. Proof is finding one of the probes. No one has. So as of now....
Logical
Jan 2014
#328
Four chapters of a book I studied in Northwestern grad school on the pharmacology of hallucinogens
ancianita
Jan 2014
#220
Exactly. And many who do know are labelled woo because the tyrannical parameters of 'official'
ancianita
Jan 2014
#270
it is a middle of the road crowd in many ways . Not so many progressives on many topics
lunasun
Jan 2014
#243
Yes, creationists and climate change deniers have similar reactions when confronted by real science
WatermelonRat
Jan 2014
#256
"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing."
G_j
Jan 2014
#262
Where do you see any evidence that I "beleive that stuff"? Links please. n/t
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#359
God is not scientifically verified therefore for those who believe in God are idiots. Got it. n/t
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#361
I am sorry that you are incapable of reading the entire thread but think you know everything anyway.
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#373
Because I don't have to entertain the idea the sun rises in the west....
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Jan 2014
#409
Are they the same people who pile on, deriding, marginalizing and mocking ALL religious beliefs
Common Sense Party
Jan 2014
#412
you would think if they are confident in their 'facts' they wouldn't need to act like bullies
Chrom
Jan 2014
#443
Hmm, that's funny, I heard that quantum mechanics was pretty woo-ish.
Waiting For Everyman
Jan 2014
#447
Creationists get offended when mean evil evolutionists poke holes in their crap as well.
NuclearDem
Jan 2014
#451
Except those on the side of evolution don't complain about a massive conspiracy to keep them down.
NuclearDem
Jan 2014
#454