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Divernan

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65. "U.S. laggard in adopting more secure credit cards"; ALL credit cards issued in U.S. hackable.
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 11:54 PM
Dec 2013

Last edited Sun Dec 22, 2013, 12:33 AM - Edit history (1)

As this detailed article from the L.A. Times explains, it's not just Target - the U.S. lags behind the rest of the developed world (80 countries) in converting cards from embedding information on magnetic strips to the "smart card" technology involving microchips. Credit card issuers in Europe and Asia made this conversion A FRIGGIN'DECADE AGO. Less than one percent of all cards issued in the US have the smart card microchips. Americans traveling abroad are increasingly running into problems using the old-style, magnetic strip cards and are being advised to request a microchip smart card when they travel abroad. Apparently, according to the article, banks and credit card companies have the capacity to provide a smart credit card for foreign travel upon request.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-1221-credit-card-technology-20131221,0,7876975.story#ixzz2oAiHYMNq


U.S. a laggard in adopting more secure credit cards

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-1221-credit-card-technology-20131221,0,7876975.story#ixzz2oAfB5tcN

Over the last decade, most countries have moved toward using credit cards that carry information on embeddable microchips rather than magnetic strips. The additional encryption on so-called smart cards has made the kind of brazen data thefts suffered by Target almost impossible to pull off in most other countries.

Because the U.S. is one of the few places yet to widely deploy such technology, the nation has increasingly become the focus of hackers seeking to steal such information. The stolen data can easily be turned into phony credit cards that are sold on black markets around the world.

"The U.S. is one of the last markets to convert from the magnetic stripe," Randy Vanderhoof, director of the EMV Migration Forum. "There's fewer places in the world where that stolen data could be used. So the U.S. becomes more of a high-value target."

EMV stands for Europay, MasterCard and Visa and is the technology standard that involves placing an integrated circuit of some kind into a credit card. Most European and Asian countries began adopting the technology a decade ago, pushed by regulators in those countries. About 80 countries use smart credit cards, which allow for greater encryption and security. By comparison, only about 1% of credit cards issued in the U.S. contain such technology.


http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-1221-credit-card-technology-20131221,0,7876975.story#ixzz2oAfj4Nvs

Apparently the usurious late fees, credit rates, penalties, etc., these companies have charged for the past ten years has not provided enough profit for these card issuers to allow them to catch up with the rest of the civilized world. Cue the dolts/trolls/idiots chanting: USA! USA! We're Number One!"
I am so sorry to hear about your cousin. tandot Dec 2013 #1
Mine too! etherealtruth Dec 2013 #2
No worries! It is a GIANT pain in the ass--I just had something else going on…. dorkzilla Dec 2013 #10
My bank card is through Chase as well etherealtruth Dec 2013 #15
Sorry to hear that, I spent Lifelong Protester Dec 2013 #3
you should have asked them to DesertFlower Dec 2013 #38
They usually charge a whole lot for overnight. LiberalFighter Dec 2013 #66
i've had both discover and bank of america DesertFlower Dec 2013 #70
Were I travelling or if it were an emergency, Lifelong Protester Dec 2013 #87
I'm so sorry about your loss. pnwmom Dec 2013 #4
Thank you pnwmom. We're still reeling from losing a young cousin a couple of summers ago dorkzilla Dec 2013 #14
i just barely glimpsed something about target. what is going on. i want to shop tomorrow and will seabeyond Dec 2013 #5
Here's the info: ohheckyeah Dec 2013 #7
thank you. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #20
You're welcome. n/t ohheckyeah Dec 2013 #63
Sea.. Texasgal Dec 2013 #9
Sadly, when shopping at any retailer ...bring cash etherealtruth Dec 2013 #12
thanks. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #23
bummer. i used my card thursday and no problem. checkbook? seabeyond Dec 2013 #22
Maybe a check is okay. Texasgal Dec 2013 #36
thanks tx. hey... woman, havent seen you of late.... seabeyond Dec 2013 #43
Thank you sister! Texasgal Dec 2013 #48
ty. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #49
It's been all over the news when it was revealed earlier this week. nt RiffRandell Dec 2013 #67
ya. ok. so? the purpose of you letting me know that? seabeyond Dec 2013 #68
Just surprised you didn't hear about it. RiffRandell Dec 2013 #72
i said i got a glance of it. but, i did not read about it. hence me asking about it. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #73
Very sorry for your loss... greytdemocrat Dec 2013 #6
the complaint is about Target, and it is well-deserved Skittles Dec 2013 #11
Agreed! Texasgal Dec 2013 #50
this is what I do not get Skittles Dec 2013 #86
So I should be happy that I couldn't do my banking, couldn't withdraw any funds dorkzilla Dec 2013 #17
This has also happened to my niece. Texasgal Dec 2013 #8
I did Texasgal. I thought "others must be going through this today". dorkzilla Dec 2013 #18
I finally got the nerve to go through my accounts with fine tooth comb... hlthe2b Dec 2013 #13
i havent been to target for months, if not longer. doesnt that make me safe, or seabeyond Dec 2013 #24
They do, they can track your merchant activity dorkzilla Dec 2013 #30
thank you for explaining further. i appreciate it. i know it had to have been a huge bummer. seabeyond Dec 2013 #32
When you get a merchant that doesn't have a good reason to accept your check LiberalFighter Dec 2013 #69
in my opinion using chase as your bank in the first place Egnever Dec 2013 #16
I've just opened an account for my business at a local small community bank. dorkzilla Dec 2013 #21
I received this response to a scathing email I sent Chase this afternoon etherealtruth Dec 2013 #19
Gee, how BIG of them dorkzilla Dec 2013 #25
interesting. thanks for putting this up. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #29
I was so pissed that they felt no need to notify their customers they were doing this etherealtruth Dec 2013 #31
absolutely. would have been no trouble to throw out an email to the customers effected. seabeyond Dec 2013 #35
Right! Like those banners "IF YOU'RE LOGGING ON THIS WEEKEND" when they do maintenance dorkzilla Dec 2013 #51
That was my thought. etherealtruth Dec 2013 #53
Exactly what I did, just before I walked out the door n/t dorkzilla Dec 2013 #54
I have been accused of being elitist for not wanting to shop at the big box stores Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #26
Same here (except for Costco…I loves me some Costco)! dorkzilla Dec 2013 #33
i believe he is talking like the walmarts where the poor can stretch the dollar further, which would seabeyond Dec 2013 #37
Absolutley Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #39
I've never stepped foot in a Walmart. And I never will. Not if I was dying of thirst... dorkzilla Dec 2013 #44
so sorry. please accept my condolences DesertFlower Dec 2013 #27
Thank you DesertFlower. dorkzilla Dec 2013 #40
thank you. nt DesertFlower Dec 2013 #71
I used my bank card at Target on November 23 - just before the affected timespan starroute Dec 2013 #28
Oh dear, so very sorry for your Cha Dec 2013 #34
Oh Cha, thank you for your kind words. dorkzilla Dec 2013 #41
You know what really pisses me off about this? Laffy Kat Dec 2013 #42
'zactly. n/t dorkzilla Dec 2013 #45
Yeah that is poor customer service Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #46
I'm so sorry for your loss renate Dec 2013 #47
It was, and I'm a baby and I need sleep to function dorkzilla Dec 2013 #52
I haven't shopped there for about 5 years Warpy Dec 2013 #55
Thanks, Warpy dorkzilla Dec 2013 #56
It's best to have one no-fee credit card from each network FarCenter Dec 2013 #57
Oh I am so so sorry Tumbulu Dec 2013 #58
Up & Up blkmusclmachine Dec 2013 #59
I'm no fan of Target but DID spend a bunch there today. Snarkoleptic Dec 2013 #60
Actually, it was because of some hackers, not Target. Incitatus Dec 2013 #61
I told hubby that his card was likely affected TxDemChem Dec 2013 #62
So you used your Chase card at Target? Th1onein Dec 2013 #64
"U.S. laggard in adopting more secure credit cards"; ALL credit cards issued in U.S. hackable. Divernan Dec 2013 #65
I thought I would be better off shopping online this Christmas. Jamastiene Dec 2013 #74
Tell them "what is best for you" is to upgrade their out-date-technology. Divernan Dec 2013 #75
You said a mouthful! n/t dorkzilla Dec 2013 #76
So sorry for your loss, dorkzilla. sheshe2 Dec 2013 #77
Thanks, sheshe. dorkzilla Dec 2013 #78
I know, dorkzilla. sheshe2 Dec 2013 #79
I must have shopped at Target in that time period BainsBane Dec 2013 #80
Check your activity regularly! dorkzilla Dec 2013 #82
I had the same problem a few months ago with a Walmart.. Historic NY Dec 2013 #81
so very sorry to hear about your cousing--my deepest sympathies to you and your family. niyad Dec 2013 #83
No, its my personal account... dorkzilla Dec 2013 #84
All Chase accounts have had limits established BainsBane Dec 2013 #85
sorry about your young cousin Liberal_in_LA Dec 2013 #88
I have a Bank of America of debit card. RebelOne Dec 2013 #89
Did you shop at Target in November? (not recalling the spec dates) etherealtruth Dec 2013 #90
You might want to check with your bank about your daily limits. LeftyMom Dec 2013 #91
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