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mellymai

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176. Ebay reps are always "looking into" something or other.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:54 PM
Dec 2013

Problem is, they never DO anything.

I went a step beyond live chat and contacted a friend who used to work in the eBay security offices in Utah, to let them know about a flagrant shill bidder. It was someone I knew personally, so it wasn't a suspicion - I knew exactly which accounts were being used to shill bid. If you looked at those accounts, it would show 100% activity with this one seller only, in categories ranging from Barbie dolls to currency to records, you name it, and that 100% specific to one seller activity went back for years on each shill account. Even at that personal versus call-center-in-outer-Bangalore level, their interests lay solely in the direction of making more money off of that seller having auctions (and if he shill bid them up, eBay made even more money). Ebay has recently cloaked the handles of bidders (look at the bid history on this auction and you'll see), and eliminated the click-on-the-bidder option, to make it even more impossible to detect/report shill bidders. Ebay, in short, simply doesn't care. And they're constantly tweaking their site so they can employ the zero punishment policies that keep lining their pockets, while allowing them to eliminate departments that exist only in name, like "security".

This auction is no exception, as all eBay cares about is getting their cut of whatever ludicrous sum this thing ends up fetching.

The only way eBay would pretend to care otherwise would be if the media embarrassed them enough. But don't waste your time thinking eBay's "customer service" or even "security department" gives a chit.

Great catch! Wait Wut Dec 2013 #1
So this is what the term Scam Artist means. JimDandy Dec 2013 #197
Oh, HELL NO!!!! ETA- Link to the Ebay sale" NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #2
Which one of you hooligans bid over $99,000 on it? Fuddnik Dec 2013 #101
As a former Power Seller Stargazer09 Dec 2013 #211
Would be funny if a dummy account wins it and GZ owes taxes on the sale. Thor_MN Dec 2013 #244
What would be funny Stargazer09 Dec 2013 #264
There appears to be several "bad eggs" Mnpaul Dec 2013 #289
OMG. myrna minx Dec 2013 #3
What a find!!11! lpbk2713 Dec 2013 #4
"and still make a killing" tblue Dec 2013 #186
Ha! At least Bush's bad art is original. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2013 #5
Not only are the images copied... AlbertCat Dec 2013 #60
"I done it with ma own poop" yurbud Dec 2013 #98
Did ya poop spell out 'ART'? icymist Dec 2013 #234
"yeah, and then God said people'd pay a lot for it: 'Thou ART worthy.'" yurbud Dec 2013 #242
LOL!!! Segami Dec 2013 #6
And the wording is stenciled! Baitball Blogger Dec 2013 #7
Too funny. Lol. Agschmid Dec 2013 #8
Be fair! Feral Child Dec 2013 #9
LOL polly7 Dec 2013 #20
Good work EarlG Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #10
He better hurry up and call 911 to tell *his* side of things. myrna minx Dec 2013 #181
I so want to be able to let bidders on Ebay know about this!!! n/t ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2013 #11
There's a link where you can ask a question of the seller arcane1 Dec 2013 #107
Bid retracted! Coyotl Dec 2013 #12
good. barbtries Dec 2013 #32
That's not a living wage! Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #57
Not sure "living" would be a worry for Inmate George jmowreader Dec 2013 #113
They'd have him in Punk City.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #126
Oh, you never know... jmowreader Dec 2013 #195
He was "rolling his ground" on the stairs mindwalker_i Dec 2013 #206
In more ways than one. jmowreader Dec 2013 #233
Bidders are looking for a piece of george zimmerman, a fraud, crook, worthless soul. Hoyt Dec 2013 #13
I smelled a big fat rat when I first saw the "original Zimmy masterpiece". bullwinkle428 Dec 2013 #14
I did, too. The picture looked more like a photograph than a painting. Laurian Dec 2013 #19
Me too. I was surprised how "good" it was. Aldo Leopold Dec 2013 #102
Here's the substance of my chat with Getty Images about the matter: NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #15
Oooooo! Snap! Nice work, NYC_SKP. I was just trying to find a way to let Ebay bidders know. n/t ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2013 #17
The bidders won't care.. They love Zimmy... SomethingFishy Dec 2013 #170
He isn't posting all the questions and I doubt many of those bidders are real. uppityperson Dec 2013 #179
Yeah I went back and looked at the "Bid list" SomethingFishy Dec 2013 #189
If zimmy is bidding to drive the price up csziggy Dec 2013 #200
They're so easily led astray.Bet they won't buy it though SummerSnow Dec 2013 #205
awesome. Soylent Brice Dec 2013 #21
Awesome dmr Dec 2013 #22
Great work, thank you. Too good. uppityperson Dec 2013 #24
Did you tell them that Jerry the Tapir could have done a more "original" artwork than Z? pinboy3niner Dec 2013 #25
...gonna need a bigger canvas! NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #34
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Segami Dec 2013 #27
That's a HUGE copyright violation Auggie Dec 2013 #31
Is it huge really? aspicer Dec 2013 #291
Yes, it's huge. Unless he did that with Getty Images' permission, they could sue his ass. winter is coming Dec 2013 #292
Great work, NYC_SKP! sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #37
lol! That's excellent. HappyMe Dec 2013 #40
BRILLIANT! Raine1967 Dec 2013 #41
It is so brilliant and I think Rachel would love it. I think she covered Z pretty much earlier..n/t monmouth3 Dec 2013 #61
I sent her the link to this thread. GreatCaesarsGhost Dec 2013 #74
Good on ya...n/t monmouth3 Dec 2013 #78
I so hope she covers it! It's hillarious. idwiyo Dec 2013 #89
I would NOT be shocked to see her touch on this tonight! bullwinkle428 Dec 2013 #109
Also send it to Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, and Bill Mahr. they would do a real number on him. tblue37 Dec 2013 #230
Jon Stewart is going to have a field day with this story. Coyotl Dec 2013 #155
Good for you Mz Pip Dec 2013 #47
Amen. Baitball Blogger Dec 2013 #128
Good work, NYC_SKP! nt sheshe2 Dec 2013 #53
You win internets. myrna minx Dec 2013 #59
You beat me to it! THANK YOU! idwiyo Dec 2013 #63
Good Going!!! cynzke Dec 2013 #76
Great work NYC_SKP zeemike Dec 2013 #80
THAT is fucking awesome! Sissyk Dec 2013 #103
Very good. grantcart Dec 2013 #129
Peter's reply is priceless! herding cats Dec 2013 #149
I believe he's altered the image enough for it to be considered "original." 1000words Dec 2013 #169
Nope, he hasn't. Th1onein Dec 2013 #209
I am pleased. 1000words Dec 2013 #222
Ebay reps are always "looking into" something or other. mellymai Dec 2013 #176
The letter isn't to EBay, it was to Getty, who represent copyright holders. NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #177
I wonder if Getty could sue ebay as well for covering up the fraud? icymist Dec 2013 #239
I doubt they'd do that. Far more likely they'll simply inform ebay, which will pull the auction. nt winter is coming Dec 2013 #293
rofl, I love it. SummerSnow Dec 2013 #193
Royalty Free aspicer Dec 2013 #286
I think you are confused between copyright and royalty free. What do you think about GZ? uppityperson Dec 2013 #288
Had to put mine on dmr Dec 2013 #16
Holy shit!!!! darkangel218 Dec 2013 #18
Hahahahahaaha. Too funny. More mocking "art" is showing up on ebay too. uppityperson Dec 2013 #23
The last one is really quite good: Contrary1 Dec 2013 #106
EXCELLENT! dawn frenzy adams Dec 2013 #245
I love the Curious George!! WCLinolVir Dec 2013 #275
rofl....haha SummerSnow Dec 2013 #26
He's now posted a picture of himself posing with it in his sale listing. polly7 Dec 2013 #35
Did you read the questions and comments on Ebay? SummerSnow Dec 2013 #43
I did. polly7 Dec 2013 #45
Yea. Real artist know their medium SummerSnow Dec 2013 #52
Oops, he did answer ... polly7 Dec 2013 #58
... ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2013 #67
LOL I know, right?! polly7 Dec 2013 #69
He needed to put "these visions" onto the blank canvas? Th1onein Dec 2013 #75
Yea, he has visions alright. ... SummerSnow Dec 2013 #99
I have visions, too. Th1onein Dec 2013 #105
House paint. What a moran Major Nikon Dec 2013 #198
You've got to wonder, with all the questions letting him know the jig polly7 Dec 2013 #212
Dumb as a stump and ate up with the Dunning–Kruger Major Nikon Dec 2013 #214
Picasso used house paint jmowreader Dec 2013 #240
Scam or conspiracy... Baitball Blogger Dec 2013 #130
If You Click cynzke Dec 2013 #92
Excellent! polly7 Dec 2013 #104
I posted a link to the original Getty image, and filed a complaint too arcane1 Dec 2013 #117
I also filed a complaint with eBay. We'll see.nt FLyellowdog Dec 2013 #285
can't stand looking at his fucking face JI7 Dec 2013 #261
Holy Guacamole!! meegbear Dec 2013 #28
You mean on top of everything else...he's also a DIP? pinboy3niner Dec 2013 #48
Just reported him to Ebay as well Oilwellian Dec 2013 #29
Someone should send the seller a message asking if it was plagiarized. Coyotl Dec 2013 #36
I just sent him a question Oilwellian Dec 2013 #44
rofl....I bet now he'll have all comments disabled SummerSnow Dec 2013 #192
Well darn it Oilwellian Dec 2013 #196
He wont answer for fear of exposure.. SummerSnow Dec 2013 #201
I just asked what percentage of the sale gts sent to Getty and how much he gets to keep uppityperson Dec 2013 #94
Ebay is going to shut him down .lol SummerSnow Dec 2013 #42
Good! Thank you. idwiyo Dec 2013 #66
Zimmerman's faux painting retsue Dec 2013 #194
he's going to make a bunch of money barbtries Dec 2013 #30
God bless Trayvon Martin Coyotl Dec 2013 #33
+1 million darkangel218 Dec 2013 #38
Perfect Hoyt Dec 2013 #39
Much better. nt TBF Dec 2013 #82
Appears To Be Plagiarism BodieTown Dec 2013 #46
He's claiming to have used latex paint on canvas (see questions on ebay page) Oilwellian Dec 2013 #54
Multiple ways of doing it... even "paint by numbers" software. hunter Dec 2013 #72
Thanks Oilwellian Dec 2013 #85
Immediately when I say this"painting".... FarPoint Dec 2013 #131
If It Were Me... BodieTown Dec 2013 #73
As hunter said above... Oilwellian Dec 2013 #88
Doubtful BodieTown Dec 2013 #96
He's no professional conman. Mariana Dec 2013 #114
No time! He "needed to put these visions onto the blank canvas as soon as possible!!!" arcane1 Dec 2013 #121
Using Latex housepaint donated to him by a "friend", since his memory couldn't hold on to the vision adirondacker Dec 2013 #160
"...these visions onto the blank canvas..." What a maroon. ..nt TeeYiYi Dec 2013 #163
"Professional" con man? hunter Dec 2013 #118
I Can't... BodieTown Dec 2013 #124
"Probably sought an attorney's advice." Baitball Blogger Dec 2013 #140
But he never *pays* his attorneys! nt tblue37 Dec 2013 #235
unethical attorney friends are a dime a dozen around here. Baitball Blogger Dec 2013 #238
Where to begin. Baitball Blogger Dec 2013 #137
You're right EC Dec 2013 #258
If it was you... jmowreader Dec 2013 #241
Paint Jet JackHughes Dec 2013 #111
Perhaps Rand Paul can "write" the forward to Zimmerman's "original art" book. myrna minx Dec 2013 #191
Uhhhh...copyright? What's a copyright? SoapBox Dec 2013 #49
Remember Al Capone! SCVDem Dec 2013 #50
And O.J. Simpson. nt tblue37 Dec 2013 #237
Now he can run as VP in 2016... Dopers_Greed Dec 2013 #51
Another lurker with some art skills here toxicopoulus Dec 2013 #55
Shap! idwiyo Dec 2013 #70
... TBF Dec 2013 #83
"Conservative" idiots will still line up to buy it ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2013 #56
The bidding is stalled with four days to go. I expect the retractions to start pouring in. Coyotl Dec 2013 #108
I'm not sure the right wing nut who buys this will care about originality mellymai Dec 2013 #185
Please, Post it on e-bay! Also, couldn't it be copyright violation? idwiyo Dec 2013 #62
email PayPal tdb63 Dec 2013 #64
LOL Scurrilous Dec 2013 #65
K&R! sheshe2 Dec 2013 #68
I KNEW IT! You know, he can get sued for that? Th1onein Dec 2013 #71
Keep reporting this to E Bay! sirkeng Dec 2013 #77
That little tidbit should be passed on to some enterprising news person Skidmore Dec 2013 #79
I'm having a very hard time believing ... surrealAmerican Dec 2013 #81
Yes, and... BodieTown Dec 2013 #120
I guess my point here is that ... surrealAmerican Dec 2013 #164
He can barely paint his name. WCLinolVir Dec 2013 #277
$100,000 for "regular household latex paint" ROFLMFAO!!! Coyotl Dec 2013 #84
So what's the best way to tint my DU T-shirt design blue to make it a GZ original? pinboy3niner Dec 2013 #86
He should have never messed with da Blue. Baitball Blogger Dec 2013 #175
'Liberty and justice for all'! sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #87
If this is true a it is illegal. You cannot take an image owned by another, alter it and Lint Head Dec 2013 #90
EBay and PayPal will make over $3000 and won't remove it tdb63 Dec 2013 #91
Well, then, Getty can sue them, too. kestrel91316 Dec 2013 #115
They've removed counterfeit vintage Les Paul guitars selling for MORE than $100,000... Dr Hobbitstein Dec 2013 #162
You can't make this shit up. CFLDem Dec 2013 #93
That's a "canvas transfer" of an electronic image. jfkraus Dec 2013 #95
That's Courier Bold font. Coyotl Dec 2013 #112
Notice how neat the text is, compared to his signature arcane1 Dec 2013 #144
He's desperate. madaboutharry Dec 2013 #97
Didn't Shepard Fairey get in a lot of trouble for doing the same thing? JaneyVee Dec 2013 #100
Artwork by coward child killer mikeysnot Dec 2013 #110
Hey, you stole my avatar (that I borrowed from somewhere)! erronis Dec 2013 #228
Get a load of this message to @therealGeorgeZ KayJay503 Dec 2013 #263
OMG! Gman Dec 2013 #116
I sent the info to Rachel Madow tdb63 Dec 2013 #119
At least Andy Warhol panted his own soup can. blueinannarbor Dec 2013 #122
I say let the racists that support him PAY the $100,000. Fools and their money, and all that. loudsue Dec 2013 #123
BwahahahahaHAAAAAA! FOX's Alan Colmes has picked up the story! johnfunk Dec 2013 #125
Oh man, this is awesome!!!!! darkangel218 Dec 2013 #224
Apparently it's been authenticated as original Major Nikon Dec 2013 #229
Actually, no one has bid on the item. Nitram Dec 2013 #127
Starting Price US $0.99 Dec-16-13 09:55:26 PST Brother Buzz Dec 2013 #133
I don't know what you're looking at - TBF Dec 2013 #134
Is it me or is "Member e***3 upping his own bid every two minutes? nolabear Dec 2013 #153
No - connecticut yankee Dec 2013 #171
Oh. Gotcha. It's been years since I've been on ebay! nolabear Dec 2013 #172
Current bid: US $99,966.00 --- Time left: 3d 22h Coyotl Dec 2013 #142
this guy is a 1/2 watt bulb heaven05 Dec 2013 #132
LOLOL hlthe2b Dec 2013 #135
It's harder to get off a copywrite charge...... DeSwiss Dec 2013 #136
This OP is going VIRAL on Twitter. We need a new hashtag for this discovery. #GeorgeZcopycat Coyotl Dec 2013 #138
#ZIMFRINGEMENT johnfunk Dec 2013 #143
This may need its own contest thread. Coyotl Dec 2013 #150
Bwahahaha! nolabear Dec 2013 #266
Im pretty sure i had something to do with that. It's my most retweeted ever! n/t ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2013 #182
Now at 125 tweets, 11,000+ page views here a result of so much twittering. Coyotl Dec 2013 #231
The potential fine for using the image w/o a license is $150,000. herding cats Dec 2013 #139
bwaaahhhh good catch!! riverwalker Dec 2013 #216
Hell, W has a damned self portrait for sale on Ebay right now... Hubert Flottz Dec 2013 #141
LOL! n/t onestepforward Dec 2013 #146
This painting is now in the news = ABC Coyotl Dec 2013 #145
Uh oh, dinger130 Dec 2013 #147
This FRAUD is now being noticed on MSM = WESH Orlando Coyotl Dec 2013 #148
Do you pay income taxes on eBay sales? radhika Dec 2013 #151
You're supposed to pay taxes on anything you make a profit from on Ebay. herding cats Dec 2013 #154
It would be taxable income. Plus, if you buy something and later sell it for more than you paid, Hoyt Dec 2013 #156
I was soooo looking for that earlier. Xyzse Dec 2013 #152
Others are starting to notice it as well LTR Dec 2013 #157
When I first saw it gaspee Dec 2013 #158
rrneck posted about this yesterday... TeeYiYi Dec 2013 #159
Coming soon to EBay: First hand painted artwork by me, NYC_SKP. NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #174
but did you ise latex house paint and sign it? uppityperson Dec 2013 #183
Someone gave housepaint because I'm so poor. NYC_SKP Dec 2013 #188
Make sure you use the best dishwashing soap and pure H2O to clean those fine brushes. adirondacker Dec 2013 #202
Fresh in your head? Snorting housepaint because you can't afford spray paint? winter is coming Dec 2013 #294
LOL I never realized you are such a talented painter Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #184
Q: NYC_SKP, what is the medium; oil or acrylic?... TeeYiYi Dec 2013 #199
ROFLMAO! Priceless!!! Best laugh of the day, thanks!!! LOL!!!!!! Melinda Dec 2013 #255
this definitely needs to be on the DU Home page... Sancho Dec 2013 #161
Yes, it does need to be on the homepage!! darkangel218 Dec 2013 #232
He's a master of foreshortening Blue Owl Dec 2013 #165
Great sense of observation. Nika Dec 2013 #166
LOL ... this is delicious! 1000words Dec 2013 #167
#Zimmerfraud... Historic NY Dec 2013 #168
I still have one of those t-shirts! Maeve Dec 2013 #173
Thanks for this. Phlem Dec 2013 #178
dang Kali Dec 2013 #180
I knew I'd seen the flag image, cropped exactly the same, somewhere before Warpy Dec 2013 #187
Was the image trademarked or anything? It would be great to nail his sorry ass for something. WowSeriously Dec 2013 #190
Copyrighted. nt tblue37 Dec 2013 #243
Dammit! Thanks. WowSeriously Dec 2013 #252
Bull shit art. graywarrior Dec 2013 #203
It's just a flimsy, half-assed way to get some income under the table Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #269
And he keeps getting attention which is what he craves graywarrior Dec 2013 #270
437 inquiries and he only post 3. SummerSnow Dec 2013 #204
If you click on 'Continue Reading' you'll see a few more... SeattleVet Dec 2013 #260
If I record 'Let it Be' by the Beatles tdb63 Dec 2013 #207
Why do you hate America and the Pledge? Nevernose Dec 2013 #213
I can't use an entire song... Oilwellian Dec 2013 #218
K&R Solly Mack Dec 2013 #208
Who does he think he is, Thomas Kincaid? mindwalker_i Dec 2013 #210
At least you could almost call that art Major Nikon Dec 2013 #217
we should be encouraging his painting career Enrique Dec 2013 #215
Anybody know GZ's DU handle? eom Jamaal510 Dec 2013 #219
During the trial there were definitely some Zman supporters trolling here. Hoyt Dec 2013 #220
No, but you can Tweet him... KayJay503 Dec 2013 #265
!!! krispos42 Dec 2013 #221
k and r.....LOLOLOLOL nt MaeScott Dec 2013 #223
I hope he "sells/"rips off a bunch of Tea/Repukes!! Awesome!! hue Dec 2013 #225
Zimmerman used the same stock image on his web page riverwalker Dec 2013 #226
Turn that little prick in to McCormack Intellectual Property Law firm. Fuddnik Dec 2013 #227
Just contacted them. Thanks for the link! Th1onein Dec 2013 #254
And that page says "Content copyright 2013. . All rights reserved." arcane1 Dec 2013 #236
Good catch. And I notice that the 'content' of that site was copyrighted! sinkingfeeling Dec 2013 #274
A fool & his.... Caretha Dec 2013 #246
Come on, you know that its a masterpiece dem in texas Dec 2013 #247
Auction current bid now at $110,100.00. Someone's not reading DU - LOL. Coyotl Dec 2013 #248
"artwork" tk2kewl Dec 2013 #249
OMG, zimmy reported my question to him and ebay sent me a warning. HAhahahahahaa. Asshole zimmy uppityperson Dec 2013 #250
If that was your full comment I don't see how it violates their rules Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #253
That was my full comment. I don't see it either. It isn't spam as I sent it once, not any of uppityperson Dec 2013 #256
Sounds like they are protecting Zimmerman from criticism Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #257
The eBay page says " 612 Inquiries" Coyotl Dec 2013 #259
OMG, he's a job creator! winter is coming Dec 2013 #295
he probably also called 9-1-1 Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2013 #262
I received one of those as well Oilwellian Dec 2013 #279
The artist now wishs to be known as Wash. state Desk Jet Dec 2013 #251
Earl G! How observant, a regular Doyle creation! You need a Duzy for lonestarnot Dec 2013 #267
Check this VIDEO: Coyotl Dec 2013 #268
The comments on Ebay are nauseating. WCLinolVir Dec 2013 #271
lol thanks for the post. ctsnowman Dec 2013 #272
Oh I get it -- "One Nation" is under "God." How cute. Sparkly Dec 2013 #273
He obviously thinks he's clever. TBF Dec 2013 #278
VIDEO: CNN Art Critic Calls Zimmerman Painting ‘Psychotic,’ Compares Him with Manson and Gacy Coyotl Dec 2013 #276
That is not The Onion, is it? Too good. uppityperson Dec 2013 #280
I watched it live this morning on CNN csziggy Dec 2013 #296
The art critic seemed to nail it Wash. state Desk Jet Dec 2013 #281
Juanita Jean had some fun with this story Gothmog Dec 2013 #282
Small world...nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #283
So where are Zimmerman's cheerleaders in all of this? Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #284
This message was self-deleted by its author uppityperson Dec 2013 #287
HA! Kurovski Dec 2013 #290
kick nt Electric Monk Dec 2013 #297
Price dropped $10,000. Lots of retractions! How many more will retract? Coyotl Dec 2013 #298
oh well hifijohn Dec 2013 #299
Winning bid: US $100,099.99 Coyotl Dec 2013 #300
kicked nt arely staircase Jan 2014 #301
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