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stopbush

(24,396 posts)
139. Actually it was 72 days:
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 01:33 PM
Dec 2013

Here’s what really happened: Yes, in the 2008 election, Democrats managed to widen their majorities in both houses of Congress. In the 110th Congress that served from January 2007 through January 2009, Democrats held a 35 seat majority in the House and a single seat advantage in the Senate, which included “independent” Senators Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, both of whom caucused with the Democrats. The 2008 election saw that majority swell to 78 seats in the House and nine seats in the Senate.

How is that possible, you ask? Everybody says that the Democrats had a full filibuster-proof majority? The math doesn’t add up, you say. If there are 100 seats in the Senate, and Republicans, as of January 2009 had only 40 of them (technically the Republicans had 41 of them initially, but we’ll get to that), doesn’t that mean that the Democrats had the remaining 60, giving them the supermajority in the Senate?

No, not necessarily, because it was a very odd year in Congressional politics.

Remember that Minnesota Senatorial election in 2008? The one that pitted former SNL writer/cast member and Air America Radio host Al Franken against Republican incumbent Norm Coleman? That race dragged on forever, resulting in several challenges and recounts until the Minnesota Supreme Court finally concluded on June 30th, 2009, that Franken was indeed the winner. Franken wasn’t sworn into office until July 7th, 2009, a full six months after the 111th Congress had taken charge.

And it wasn’t even that easy. Even had Franken been seated at the beginning of the legislative session, the Democrats still would only have had a 59-41 seat edge. It wasn’t until late April of 2009 that Pennsylvania Senator Arlen Specter defected from the Republican Party to caucus with the Democrats. Without Franken, the Dems only had 58 votes.

But even that’s not entirely accurate, and the Dems didn’t have a consistent, reliable 58 votes. Massachusetts Senator Ted Kennedy was terminally ill with a brain tumor, and could only muster up the energy to vote on selected legislation. His presence could not be counted on, and thus his vote in the Senate could not be counted on. During the first year of the Obama presidency, due to his illness Kennedy missed 261 out of a possible 270 votes in the Senate, denying the Democrats the 60th vote necessary to break a filibuster. In March of 2009, he stopped voting altogether. It wasn’t until Kennedy passed away in late August, 2009, and an interim successor was named on September 24th, 2009, that the Democrats actually had 60 votes.

And even then the 60 vote supermajority was tenuous at best. At the time, then 91 year old Robert Byrd from West Virginia was in frail health. During the last 6 months of 2009, Byrd missed 128 of a possible 183 votes in the Senate. Byrd passed away on June 28, 2010 at the age of 92.

In all, Democrats had a shaky 60 vote supermajority for all of four months and one week; from the time Kennedy’s interim successor Paul Kirk was sworn in on September 24th until the time Republican Scott Brown was sworn in as Kennedy’s “permanent” replacement after his special election victory over Democratic disappointment, Massachusetts Attorney General Martha Coakley. In a state that is heavily Democratic, it seems that Coakley figured she didn’t have to actually campaign for the Senate seat; that Massachusetts voters would automatically elect the Democrat to replace the legendary Kennedy. No way Massachusetts would send a Republican to replace Ted Kennedy. Brown took the election seriously, Coakley did not, and Brown won (he will, however, lose this November to Elizabeth Warren, and all will be right with the world again).

During those four months and one week, Congress was in session for a total of 72 days. So for 72 days the Democrats held a 60 seat, filibuster-proof supermajority in the United States Senate. But wait! There’s more! As Chicago Tribune columnist Eric Zorn points out, even that was unreliable. “Even in this window Obama’s ‘control’ of the Senate was incomplete and highly adulterated due to the balkiness of the so-called Blue Dog conservative and moderate Democratic Senators such as Ben Nelson of Nebraska, Evan Bayh of Indiana, and Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas.”

Zorn continues:

The claim that Obama ruled like a monarch over Congress for two years — endlessly intoned as a talking point by Republicans — is more than just a misremembering of recent history or excited overstatement. It’s a lie.

It’s meant to represent that Obama’s had his chance to try out his ideas, and to obscure and deny the relentless GOP obstructionism and Democratic factionalism he’s encountered since Day One.

They seem to figure if they repeat this often enough, you’ll believe it.

Seventy-two days. That’s it. That’s the entirety of absolute Democratic control of the United States Senate in 2009 and 2010. And yet Republicans want America to believe that Obama and the Democrats ruled with a tyrannical zeal to pass every piece of frivolous legislation they could conjure up. They think that the voters are dumb enough to believe it.

Given the mendacity of the Republican presidential ticket this year, it appears that they think very little of the intelligence of the American electorate, and are merely perpetuating a disturbing pattern of behavior on the part of Republican lawmakers, who have a very loose relationship with truth and the real world. And that includes their official PR apparatus, Fox News. We’ll find out on November 6th if they’re right.

All of this and we didn’t even talk about the unprecedented, deliberate, methodical obstructionism on the part of Republicans via the filibuster. Tsk, tsk, tsk…..

http://sandiegofreepress.org/2012/09/the-myth-of-the-filibuster-proof-democratic-senate/

DU rec. ucrdem Dec 2013 #1
The K and R.... dhill926 Dec 2013 #2
Schaeffer has put my feelings into words. politichew Dec 2013 #3
+1 jazzimov Dec 2013 #17
+1 more nt Progressive dog Dec 2013 #23
+1000. Thank you. eom BlueCaliDem Dec 2013 #31
Thank you politichew!!! liberal from boston Dec 2013 #42
No Enthusiast Dec 2013 #56
Welcome to DU, politichew! calimary Dec 2013 #81
Welcome to DU ploitichw!!!! blue14u Dec 2013 #102
Are you saying people who vote communist criticized him? Because that is the extreme left not merrily Dec 2013 #123
A year ago I started going to a coffee shop in the morning and for sometime Vietnameravet Dec 2013 #4
Obama sure blew the whole Right Wing argument into dust.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #36
I would have simply said, Control-Z Dec 2013 #46
+1!!!!!!! I usually say Cha Dec 2013 #117
I'm sure you were sympathetic, but the complaints about his relationships were one sided, no doubt. freshwest Dec 2013 #112
African Americans who were lynched in real life had ZERO POWER KeepItReal Dec 2013 #5
True to your forum name Martin Eden Dec 2013 #9
And how many actual days did the Ds control the Senate & House? stopbush Dec 2013 #27
Only a few days as I recall rickford66 Dec 2013 #47
If I remember correctly, I read blue14u Dec 2013 #106
Not true. merrily Dec 2013 #125
Hi merrily.. Do you know blue14u Dec 2013 #126
Didn't the link in my post work? merrily Dec 2013 #127
P.S. Thank you for all the kind words. merrily Dec 2013 #128
Thank you for the thoughtful response merrily. blue14u Dec 2013 #141
Enough. merrily Dec 2013 #124
Actually it was 72 days: stopbush Dec 2013 #139
The Presidency's power treestar Dec 2013 #38
Obama had a super majority for only 24 working days. SunSeeker Dec 2013 #48
"... the blue dogs wouldn't budge--they were in fear of their red districts back home ... Scuba Dec 2013 #57
+1 Phlem Dec 2013 #63
I agree Scuba... blue14u Dec 2013 #107
"Wonder how those blue dogs would have fared had they embraced some true progressive issues..." SunSeeker Dec 2013 #118
What was Halter's "decidedly progressive" platform? Did it include .... Scuba Dec 2013 #130
Halter was well to the left of Lincoln, had labor support, yet he lost in the Dem primary. SunSeeker Dec 2013 #142
Sounds progressive, but only a tiny bit so. Certainly nothing to excite the disaffected. Scuba Dec 2013 #143
The GOP will win if we insist on your criteria--Elizabeth Warren doesn't even meet them SunSeeker Dec 2013 #144
They aren't my criteria. They're all very popular positions across the electorate. Scuba Dec 2013 #146
Don't blame the electorate for your purity test. nt SunSeeker Dec 2013 #147
I agree. Also the blue dogs forced him to accept a stimulus package which was politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2013 #72
Yes, and THIS is what has upset liberals - who absolutely have his back... polichick Dec 2013 #131
. libodem Dec 2013 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author tblue Dec 2013 #7
Bravo! K&R nt MrScorpio Dec 2013 #8
I second your "Bravo" and add a "Holy Shit, Schaeffer TOOK IT THERE" Number23 Dec 2013 #75
Yup... SidDithers Dec 2013 #101
Yeah, the "left" is always to blame.... BULLSHIT!!!!! MNBrewer Dec 2013 #10
+1 Phlem Dec 2013 #93
Show me where Frank Schaeffer said that, please. nt Hekate Dec 2013 #115
rec demgrrrll Dec 2013 #11
... 2naSalit Dec 2013 #12
wow, what a whiny pile of crap. Vattel Dec 2013 #13
+1 MNBrewer Dec 2013 #108
Wow just WOW Autumn Dec 2013 #14
Obama Failures Front And Center - Coddles Banks - Panders To Wall Street - Supports Drones - Blesses NSA - Driving TPP cantbeserious Dec 2013 #15
I don't view Obama as a victim, he's the President and it comes with the job, furthermore Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #16
This deserves emphasis Yo_Mama Dec 2013 #45
If you hold his feet to the fire then Phlem Dec 2013 #66
If he wants the left to admire him, he should move to the left. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #18
The left does admire him. great white snark Dec 2013 #37
I'm a Democrat and a leftist. I don't. And, as you can see on DU there are a lot of us. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #39
yep. Phlem Dec 2013 #68
I don't always agree with this President, jazzimov Dec 2013 #19
This AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #20
Give 'em enough rope.... grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #21
Ugly truths DonCoquixote Dec 2013 #22
+1 Phlem Dec 2013 #69
recommended nt arely staircase Dec 2013 #24
this article is so on-point, I want to cry. BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2013 #25
Hope somebody sends this to Chris Matthews. madamesilverspurs Dec 2013 #26
I agree this is their method, but I don't think it is racism Chrom Dec 2013 #28
I'm convinced it's all based on racism. They hate whites who aren't racists. Zen Democrat Dec 2013 #30
Now that is an interesting perspective. Number23 Dec 2013 #76
What they ARE is classic "Control Freaks" lashing out because their authority is under assault. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #34
They attacked Clinton the same way. AlbertCat Dec 2013 #104
I agree, but they were relentless against Clinton. pacalo Dec 2013 #113
Wow. Drunken Irishman Dec 2013 #29
This malaise Dec 2013 #32
Covered here... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #33
Calling Obama's experience a "lynching" is disrespectful to the memory of victims of real lynchings. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #35
What do you think was behind the uproar over his selfie with the blonde Danish PM? SunSeeker Dec 2013 #50
If it had been Bill and Hillary Clinton, or Joe and Jill Biden, Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #51
the reaction would have been the same. AlbertCat Dec 2013 #105
You ignore the tone of the attacks, not to mention the exponential increase in death threats. SunSeeker Dec 2013 #119
A hated airhead compares debt to slavery, and a favored journalist compares criticism to lynching... cherokeeprogressive Dec 2013 #86
I do agree with that. AverageJoe90 Dec 2013 #133
The morons went after Clinton with equal hate and vigor 1000words Dec 2013 #40
And they actually impeached him (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #53
I don't remember anyone criticizing Clinton from the left Enthusiast Dec 2013 #54
I wasn't referring to the left 1000words Dec 2013 #58
I apologize. I misunderstood. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #65
It's all good. I didn't communicate it very well. 1000words Dec 2013 #67
What I've been basically saying for 6 years. VPStoltz Dec 2013 #41
Yep: How dare he return to his home state? It's so, you know, full of intermarried brown people. Hekate Dec 2013 #116
Thank you for posting that. It needs to be said. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #43
"Obama will be revered by Democrats" I've said that same thing so many times Number23 Dec 2013 #80
I'm not buying it. Yo_Mama Dec 2013 #44
Plus one. Thank you. Finally a post I agree with. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #49
+1 (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #52
“The Obama administration is dedicated to increasing terrorism” ucrdem Dec 2013 #55
You didn't make a rational argument against Chomsky's then, either. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #61
No, that's not lynching at all Yo_Mama Dec 2013 #96
Yes it's hyperbole, but it wouldn't be the first time someone used hyperbole to make a point politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2013 #77
Yeah, I remembered that. Yo_Mama Dec 2013 #97
+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #92
OP is trying to have it both ways with disgusting pretzel logic BrotherIvan Dec 2013 #59
+1 1000words Dec 2013 #60
I agree madville Dec 2013 #62
I see it here all the time BrotherIvan Dec 2013 #64
A huge plus one! nt Enthusiast Dec 2013 #85
Or this, response # 66 Phlem Dec 2013 #70
I recall the "left" trying to warn that the Republicans would try to block everything... JHB Dec 2013 #82
One can only stand being called a "hair on fire alarmist" so many times. Phlem Dec 2013 #87
PLUS! this one... Enthusiast Dec 2013 #84
But come election time, you better get your leftist ass out there and vote! BrotherIvan Dec 2013 #88
Yup. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #89
Exactly! Phlem Dec 2013 #90
2 words BrotherIvan Dec 2013 #94
Heresy! Phlem Dec 2013 #95
+1 octoberlib Dec 2013 #98
I noticed that too Yo_Mama Dec 2013 #99
Thank you. Blue_In_AK Dec 2013 #122
K&R Mira Dec 2013 #71
I cry when I read this madokie Dec 2013 #73
k & r! n/t wildbilln864 Dec 2013 #74
I'm sorry GladRagDahl Dec 2013 #78
Exactly what I think. Nt DevonRex Dec 2013 #79
Brilliant, just Brilliant; Mr. Schaeffer BrainMann1 Dec 2013 #83
HUGE K&R BumRushDaShow Dec 2013 #91
"And did the “enlightened” Left have President Obama’s back? No."... SidDithers Dec 2013 #100
Did the president have the backs of the Left? No..... Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #120
the disgusting southern right wing rubes from the former slave states that have tried to belittle... AlbertCat Dec 2013 #103
The abusive treatment of President Obama is a national shame and disgrace. NBachers Dec 2013 #109
And It's Time To Start Naming Names DallasNE Dec 2013 #110
You lost me at lynching. It's absolutely no different than McCain playing the Hitler card. WowSeriously Dec 2013 #111
That makes for such painful reading. The Sunday morning gasbags were at it again... Hekate Dec 2013 #114
Sorry, criticizing a POTUS does not = lynching him merrily Dec 2013 #121
The GOP has ZERO solutions, so they have to resort to this sh!t slinging. In reality, the righties blkmusclmachine Dec 2013 #129
Good article. It's a tad more complex, also, though. AverageJoe90 Dec 2013 #132
Wow! gollygee Dec 2013 #134
The Truth CaptCaribbean Dec 2013 #135
Hyperbolic angsty bullshit much? Decaffeinated Dec 2013 #136
K&R sheshe2 Dec 2013 #137
More like a lynching of liberalism! raindaddy Dec 2013 #138
K&R Bobbie Jo Dec 2013 #140
Add my late K&R to the list. n/t FSogol Dec 2013 #145
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