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In reply to the discussion: Pope Francis is naming names [View all]NYC Liberal
(20,153 posts)131. It's part of the Church catechism
Francis has not changed the catechism and he supports it.
2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.
2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.
2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.
2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.
2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.
"Not judging" has been the church teAching for years.
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But it's the POPE. I'm not a Catholic, but the media reports what the Pope says
mountain grammy
Nov 2013
#9
Unfortunately, if certain people, and corporations and media, who will remain nameless,
pangaia
Nov 2013
#48
That is actually pretty much the anti slavery abolitionist argument
The Green Manalishi
Nov 2013
#145
I doubt it. But other things he has said I am sure have set her undies on fire.
pangaia
Nov 2013
#49
Jesuits. . .ah yes. The Catholic Church's own version of the forced conversion squad
Nanjing to Seoul
Nov 2013
#97
Unconverted Jews and Moslems NEVER came under the jurisdiction of the Church.
happyslug
Nov 2013
#146
Good idea alientaing another voting block, women, minorities, gay persons and now Catholics
Sheepshank
Nov 2013
#16
I'm sure you have come across conservatives saying that the Nazis were socialists.
Fortinbras Armstrong
Nov 2013
#124
A gay person who finds the gushing support for an anti gay bigot on DU disgusting...
eqfan592
Nov 2013
#39
Help like suing to avoid covering contraception under ACA? Like opposing choice?
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2013
#109
Accusations of purity most often come associated with intolerance of economic feudalism
TheKentuckian
Nov 2013
#130
that is simply not true, that a large number of RCC clerics are openly gay.
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2013
#106
The Fransican priest to the New York firefighters who died on 9/11 was openly gay.
Cleita
Nov 2013
#114
You don't have to, but we are free to like him if we want. I don't give a damn what you
liberal_at_heart
Nov 2013
#81
Liberal heads aren't "detonating" either, at least not for the reason you imply.
eqfan592
Nov 2013
#105
You owe it to your daughter to inform yourself about what Francis actually said.
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2013
#108
Yup. Hasn't been a lot to cheer about from the Catholic church in recent decades.
Last Stand
Nov 2013
#113
Don't even claim to know anything about me. My daughter is bi. That does not mean I have
liberal_at_heart
Nov 2013
#148
When SidDithers and Rush Limbaugh hate the Pope, I know he's doing something right.
DisgustipatedinCA
Nov 2013
#116
Oh, I thought you meant he was naming names of LIVE people. Well, isn't this safe.
ancianita
Nov 2013
#35
Why would you have thought that? Are you accusing him of a crime, and if so, what crime?
sabrina 1
Nov 2013
#86
Bottom line: Compared to what you expected, this Pope turned out to actually give a shit
Dustlawyer
Nov 2013
#40
Rutilio Grande, Alfonso Navarro, Ernesto Barrera, Octavio Ortiz, Rafael Palacios, Napoleón Macías,
MisterP
Nov 2013
#69
Folks, don't think for a second the religious will be offended at the wingnuts bashing the Pope
IkeRepublican
Nov 2013
#90
Of course Francis did not use the name 'Reagan' at all, because he and Reagan agree
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2013
#103
What I find interesting about this thread is that some here that otherwise would support
rhett o rick
Nov 2013
#107
A good chunck of these "chrsitians" worship money and will do anything to get it
WCGreen
Nov 2013
#142
The RCC is against abortion, yet many Catholics are very strong supporters of abortion.
ZombieHorde
Nov 2013
#154
Which makes the hypocrisy worse, not better. 'We don't really believe it, but we let our
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2014
#158