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In reply to the discussion: 10 Facts about Lee Oswald that make 70% of Americans Wonder... [View all]Uncle Joe
(58,368 posts)103. I'm not disputing that Oswald was the gun man.
He had the connections to the CIA via his "friend" and the CIA had connections to the Mafia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_de_Mohrenschildt
George de Mohrenschildt (in Russian: Георгий Сергеевич де Мореншильд (April 17, 1911 March 29, 1977) was a petroleum geologist and professor who befriended Lee Harvey Oswald in the summer of 1962 and maintained that friendship until Oswald's death, two days after Oswald allegedly assassinated U.S. President John F. Kennedy. His testimony before the Warren Commission investigating the assassination was one of the longest of any witness.[1]
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De Mohrenschildt dabbled in the insurance business from 1939 to 1941, but failed to pass his broker's examination.[15] In 1941, he became associated with Film Facts in New York, a production company owned by his cousin Baron Maydell who was said to have pro-Nazi sympathies. (De Mohrenschildt denied any Nazi sympathies of his own, claiming he helped raise money for the Polish resistance.) De Mohrenschildt made a documentary film about resistance fighters in Poland.[16] However, when the United States entered World War II, his application to join the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) was rejected. According to a memo by former CIA director Richard Helms, de Mohrenschildt "was alleged to be a Nazi espionage agent."[17]
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Lee Harvey Oswald and his Russian-born wife Marina Oswald were introduced to de Mohrenschildt in the summer of 1962 in Fort Worth, Texas. De Mohrenschildt had heard of the Oswalds from one of the Russian-speaking group of émigrés in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. George and Jeanne befriended them, tried to help them as best they could, and introduced them to the Russian community in Dallas. In his Warren Commission testimony in 1964, de Mohrenschildt stated that he believed he had discussed Oswald with J. Walton Moore, who de Mohrenschildt described as "a Government man either FBI or Central Intelligence",[28][29] and who had debriefed de Mohrenschildt several times following de Mohrenschildt's travels abroad, starting in 1957.[29][30] (According to a CIA classified document, obtained by House Select Committee on Assassinations, J. Walton Moore was an agent of the CIA's Domestic Contacts Division in Dallas.)[29] De Mohrenschildt asserted that shortly after meeting Oswald, he asked Moore and Fort Worth attorney Max E. Clark about Oswald to reassure himself that it was "safe" for the de Mohrenschildts to assist Oswald. De Mohrenschildt testified that one of the persons he talked to about Oswald told him that Oswald "seems to be OK," and that "he is a harmless lunatic." However, de Mohrenschildt was not exactly sure who it was who told him this.[31] (When interviewed in 1978 by the House Select Committee on Assassinations, J. Walton Moore denied that de Mohrenschildt had asked for his permission to contact Oswald.)[29] It should be noted that during this time, tens of thousands of American citizens were routinely debriefed by the CIA after traveling to countries such as Yugoslavia, as de Mohrenschildt did.[32]
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In March 1963, de Mohrenschildt received a Haitian government contract for $285,000 to set up an industrial enterprise with other investors, which included surveying oil and geological resources on the island. In May, he met in Washington, D.C. with CIA and Army intelligence contacts to further his Haitian connections.[37][38] De Mohrenschildt moved to Haiti in June. He never saw Oswald again. After Kennedy was assassinated, de Mohrenschildt testified before the Warren Commission in April 1964. (For this testimony in the hearing record, see Testimony of George S. de Mohrenschildt.) In 1967, de Mohrenschildt left Haiti and returned to Dallas. Also in 1967, New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison interviewed George and Jeanne de Mohrenschildt as part of Garrison's prosecution of Clay Shaw.[39]
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On March 16, 1977, de Mohrenschildt returned to the United States from his trip. His daughter talked with him at length and found him to be deeply disturbed about certain matters and had expressed a desire to commit suicide. On March 29, De Mohrenschildt gave an interview to author Edward Jay Epstein, during which he claimed that in 1962, Dallas CIA operative J. Walton Moore had given him the go-ahead to meet Oswald. "I would never have contacted Oswald in a million years if Moore had not sanctioned it," de Mohrenschildt said. "Too much was at stake."[50] On the same day as the Epstein interview, de Mohrenschildt received a business card from Gaeton Fonzi, an investigator for the House Select Committee on Assassinations, telling him that he would like to see him.[51] The HSCA considered him a "crucial witness".[52] That afternoon, de Mohrenschildt was found dead from a shotgun blast to the head in a house where he was staying in Manalapan, Florida.[53][37] The coroner's verdict was suicide.[54]
P.S. I don't know what makes that smilie face appear in the post above.
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And you reached that conclusion after reading the Warren Commission Report, right?
stopbush
Nov 2013
#15
Where does it say he hasn't read it? You know what they say about people who make assumptions....
madmom
Nov 2013
#81
It's not my "opinion" that Ruby was diagnosed with cancer in 1966. it's a fact.
stopbush
Nov 2013
#38
Jack Ruby was a lone nut who killed a lone nut. There was no conspiracy and I think
duffyduff
Nov 2013
#145
lol. When point number 1 is as baldfaced as this, I don't need to read the rest.
Schema Thing
Nov 2013
#5
#1 is way off base. All the other points are accurate, but unimportant given the CIA admission.
ieoeja
Nov 2013
#40
Thanks! What I saw at the time said "personnel". I didn't delve into it because I find all of this
ieoeja
Nov 2013
#49
No, I'm not wrong. His son said his father had a different view in private.
former9thward
Nov 2013
#198
Ever notice how the CTists find it "fishy" that the Dallas Police could nab Oswald so quickly
stopbush
Nov 2013
#24
Oh, the DPD had plenty, especially as they were working with the Fed agencies from the get-go.
stopbush
Nov 2013
#189
While I never believed Oswald acted alone, something's fishy here. A Marine working on the U2???
Scuba
Nov 2013
#10
I was assigned to Andrews AFB, home of Air Force One. Doesn't mean I worked on it.
Scuba
Nov 2013
#29
Thanks for the factual corrective, not that it will change the minds of the easily duped.
stopbush
Nov 2013
#18
Why did Ruby go to the police station armed with a pistol with every intent on coming back?
Uncle Joe
Nov 2013
#52
Ruby went to the police station several times after Oswald had been arrested as my post# 55
Uncle Joe
Nov 2013
#69
Security was lax even for that day and age especially considering the prisoner they held.
Uncle Joe
Nov 2013
#96
Yes: "I believe that Kennedy was murdered for the same reason and by the same people who murdered...
villager
Nov 2013
#127
It's no great feat to get you. But truth is more important here at DU than your BS.
stopbush
Nov 2013
#123
FACT: Policeman ID'd Oswald having a Coke in the lunch room about a minute after the shootings.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#115
and Victoria Adams and Sandra Stiles use the same set of stairs that Oswald would have
KurtNYC
Nov 2013
#139
That must be why I said ''about'' and said 90 seconds in the post. Picture this...
Octafish
Nov 2013
#150
Right. The diagram is to show how how far the Warren Commission goes to pin it on Oswald.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#163
The Russians wouldn't have him. The Cubans wouldn't have him. The CIA wouldn't have him.
duffyduff
Nov 2013
#146
"What American goes to the USSR during the height of the Cold War, comes back like nothing happened"
JVS
Nov 2013
#168
I agree. When someone performs an assassination, there's little incentive for his...
JVS
Nov 2013
#173
If you want to believe that Ruby shot Oswald and spent the rest of his life in prison
KurtNYC
Nov 2013
#157
He and a handful of conspirators.....yet many believed, and still do, that the leaders of the South
cbdo2007
Nov 2013
#250
Bush's name, kids' names, personal info was in De Mohrenschildt's address book.
Octafish
Nov 2013
#205
George DeMohrenschildt knew the Bouvier family when Jackie Kennedy was a child
zappaman
Nov 2013
#206
I don't find JFK's assassination or anything about it a "source of amusement"
zappaman
Nov 2013
#216
Here's what I found regarding the Connally perception v. the single bullet evidence
Camballo
Nov 2013
#226
I started this thread to talk about why the large majority doubt parts of the WCR
KurtNYC
Nov 2013
#229
Actually, Connally was correct in thinking he had been hit by the second bullet fired.
stopbush
Nov 2013
#245
"1. No Motive." Oswald was a strange man, with a history of strange behavior. It is unrealistic
struggle4progress
Nov 2013
#251