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crimsonblue

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18. thanks for the ad hominem and straw men....

Sat Mar 3, 2012, 09:59 PM

Mar 2012

How about you look at scientific studies and news reports.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-12964360

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199410203311607

Please don't let my facts get in the way of your hysterical need to be correct.

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Why an MRI costs $1,080 in America and $280 in France [View all] MindMover Mar 2012 OP

Remove the middle man, I mean the Insurance Co. midnight Mar 2012 #1

Also get advertising out of it. Initech Mar 2012 #5

BUT Advertise the prices so people can compare. BOHICA12 Mar 2012 #58

doctors themselves are much to blame for high costs crimsonblue Mar 2012 #6

There's blame to go around lumberjack_jeff Mar 2012 #7

Insurance companies can refuse to pay inflated prices. That somewhat helps in keeping consumers, shcrane71 Mar 2012 #8

My daughter is almost a quarter million dollars in debt for medical school. tblue37 Mar 2012 #30

+10,000 eridani Mar 2012 #31

Doctors in the USA are basically businessmen (and women) Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2012 #53

and dentists like you to have bad teeth Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2012 #54

Doctor rates for non-insurance people are higher than insurance people - dramatically. cbdo2007 Mar 2012 #17

I found the opposite. Kablooie Mar 2012 #49

Then why is the per person cost in Germany lower than in Canada? bornskeptic Mar 2012 #50

Yes, but...... izquierdista Mar 2012 #2

The film Sicko interviewed a British doctor who was making about $150,000 a year under socialized aint_no_life_nowhere Mar 2012 #20

I read somewhere, tho, that France is having trouble finding enuf qualified doctors. Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #29

where did you read this? CreekDog Mar 2012 #35

I could bore you with the economics of health care.. crimsonblue Mar 2012 #3

Plus... crimsonblue Mar 2012 #4

I had to wait 2 months in the US KT2000 Mar 2012 #9

I was refused care by my insurance company.... Yooperman Mar 2012 #13

at one prominent hospital in Canada, average wait time for knee surgery is 109 days. crimsonblue Mar 2012 #16

And in the U.S. if you don't have the cash or the insurance dflprincess Mar 2012 #22

And in the US, you'll die a miserably, painful death for not having insurance. shcrane71 Mar 2012 #48

anecdotal CreekDog Mar 2012 #37

And that is different from my mother's six-month wait how? haele Mar 2012 #41

Wait times worst in US and Canada, other nations much better SOS Mar 2012 #44

I hope people actually read your link re Canadian wait times iverglas Mar 2012 #55

Right winger mythology, again smaug Mar 2012 #10

thanks for the ad hominem and straw men.... crimsonblue Mar 2012 #18

Please explain what you mean by "hysterical"? CreekDog Mar 2012 #38

Exactly, smaug (and I love your name - Smaug is awesome, and wicked witty) Benedict Cumberbatch anneboleyn Mar 2012 #25

Way to catapult the propaganda KeepItReal Mar 2012 #12

What propaganda? crimsonblue Mar 2012 #19

Do patients in Canada or France wait for an MRI... Chemical Bill Mar 2012 #23

not long blublu Mar 2012 #34

The waits are longer in the US for such surgeries for people without health coverage CreekDog Mar 2012 #36

Wait times? Cherry-pick much? How about the bottom line: NashvilleLefty Mar 2012 #40

how about 3500? I had four in one year, and they all cost Gabi Hayes Mar 2012 #11

I was going to say the same. MRIs are at least 3,500 and more... anneboleyn Mar 2012 #24

$3500 is like the manufacturers suggested retail price Brother Buzz Mar 2012 #27

They do one MRI then charge per view which is nothing more than virtual unbundling of Lint Head Mar 2012 #14

TL;DR - Price gouging. backscatter712 Mar 2012 #15

Here's an article for your consideration... crimsonblue Mar 2012 #21

Nevermind. Sparkly Mar 2012 #52

Unless you're including drugs, the Canadian cost is way lower... Puzzler Mar 2012 #26

$60-70 in the UAE for an MRI JCMach1 Mar 2012 #28

The BIG Difference: bvar22 Mar 2012 #32

What would be most interesting SATIRical Mar 2012 #33

I bet the janitors are equally qualified. Here's a link to some salaries. Generally make less in Fra uppityperson Mar 2012 #39

Thanks. So considering SATIRical Mar 2012 #42

The easiest most noticable way to cut outgo is to pay providers less.It's happened to me, as a nurse uppityperson Mar 2012 #43

Comparison of four cities SOS Mar 2012 #45

We pay more for poorer outcomes. We need nationalized health care now! Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #46

we need a cap on prices pure and simple pitohui Mar 2012 #47

Mom had a stroke. five days and bill for $98000. Now glinda Mar 2012 #51

One thing I've noticed since more people are getting stuck with high out of pocket plans is that dflprincess Mar 2012 #56

i just had one and my co-pay was 280.00 spanone Mar 2012 #57