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In reply to the discussion: I'm sick of the liberal bashing going on here. [View all]joshcryer
(62,297 posts)The GOP was saying, for instance, that Obama wanted to take Medicare with Obamacare. The liberals just let the message float out there. The Democrats in particular didn't even fight back with that bullshit messaging. Don't get me started on the Catfood Commission, which liberals agreed with the teabaggers on, but which was nothing but theater. The fact that everything was put on the table as per Obama's pre-nomination rhetoric was common knowledge but the possibility that it was going to actually be voted on was ridiculous. The Democrats would've accepted Chained-CPI but only if it had a poverty threshold (so about 6 million people on SS/SSI would be pulled out of poverty). The Republicans never would've accepted that.
The list is numerous. Obama said he would responsibly leave Iraq, which is why his leaving Iraq was his easiest commitment to make, the policy Bush had signed for SOFA basically meant Obama didn't have to do anything to leave Iraq.
As far as warrentless wiretaps? He voted for FISA-2008, telecom immunity, after telecoms illegally tapped people under Bush (ironically, the challenger who lost to him, Hillary Clinton, voted against it).
This liberal, however, kept Colorado blue even though the guys at the top of the ticket are center-left moderate Democrats, I still fought fucking hard for them. My vote isn't conditioned on single issues, it can't be, it is based upon compassion for my fellow citizens.
We lost Grayson and Feingold due to the petulant infighting that liberals had, which, btw, I think was done as a sort of ratfucking. There's no reason for us, in an election year (post-primary), to be fighting against our own even if they aren't as pure or ideological as us. But it happens every time. DU cheered the loss of the blue dogs.
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