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Ms. Toad

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72. There are no limits on doctor's visits on ANY of the plans.
Tue Oct 1, 2013, 04:09 PM
Oct 2013

Last edited Tue Oct 1, 2013, 04:45 PM - Edit history (1)

But this structure is a modified high deductible plan - which is not really intended to cover day-to-day medical expenses. In traditional high deductible plans you pay 100% for everything until you reach the deductible, then the co-pays kick in until you hit the out of pocket maximum (and often they are merged; my current plan has a $6000 deductible and a $6000 out of pocket max - I pay 100% of everything until I hit $6000, then I pay nothing).

In order to make sure you visit the doctor when needed, the plan exempts some visits entirely from the deductible (the preventative care ones) and allows you to visit the doctor a few times at a lower out of pocket cost even before you meet the higher deductible, and at least one time without charge.

The normal structure for that kind plan (generally referred to as catastrophic coverage), though, is you pay 100% of everything until you reach the deductible. As modified in the exchanges (or at least the CA one), you are entitled to at least 3 visits even though you have not met your deductible for $60 each, plus the preventative. Beyond that additional visits either have a $0 co-pay or it reverts to catastrophic coverage (you pay everything until you hit the annual cap, then you pay nothing - I haven't found enough detail to know which).

It is not a plan for everyone - but it is better than my current coverage and the coverage which I purchased when I was not eligible for any other coverage because of pre-existing conditions. Younger individuals, who are healthy and just want to make sure they are not completely wiped out by a catastrophe might find this cheap plan attractive because they generally have low premiums in exchange for accepting more of the risk. If you expect to need more than 4 visits (preventative + 3), you might want to confirm who pays for the 4th visit if you have not had a medical catastrophe - or look at a more traditional plan.

It is explained slightly differently here:

http://www.medicoverage.com/health-insurance-blog/news/comparing-exchange-plans-bronze-silver-gold-platinum

What is listed in the chart is what you pay. It looks to me as if you pay $60 for each of the first three visits. There is no additional payment listed for the 4th - Nth visit - so it looks to me as if there are no additional charges for those. But, as I said, it isn't entirely clear.

That's GREAT. 90% of all the copays are less than what I pay and I'm on medicare napi21 Oct 2013 #1
God bless, Medicare! Firebrand Gary Oct 2013 #4
I'm really confused here Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #38
Medicare patients will not be covered by Obamacare, in any state. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #53
Thanks for the clarification Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #87
Something seems wrong, napi21. brer cat Oct 2013 #59
My guess is that DURHAM D Oct 2013 #60
ah. I don't know about all the plans. brer cat Oct 2013 #61
It depends on what state you're in and the ins. rates there. napi21 Oct 2013 #89
So how much does she have to pay to get the silver plan? Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #2
I'm not sure as of yet, but I will find out shortly. Firebrand Gary Oct 2013 #3
If you X out that thing that pops up you can see the rates. joshcryer Oct 2013 #27
Thanks for the sentiments in the OP, some truth and those screenshots! Best wishes to your mom. freshwest Oct 2013 #5
Thank you, Freshwest! Firebrand Gary Oct 2013 #6
I'm glad this will help her ! steve2470 Oct 2013 #7
Thanks Steve2470 Firebrand Gary Oct 2013 #10
Thanks for that. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2013 #8
You're most welcome Tarheel! Firebrand Gary Oct 2013 #11
kick grantcart Oct 2013 #9
Gary, this is awesome for your Mom! thanks for letting us know! Cha Oct 2013 #12
Thanks Cha! Firebrand Gary Oct 2013 #14
Backatcha! Cha Oct 2013 #16
Am I seeing that right? The Enhanced Silver plan has a monthly payment of $8???? Bolo Boffin Oct 2013 #13
Insane if so, but the first picture has $662 and $245. joshcryer Oct 2013 #17
Those may be before any subsidies are applied. Bolo Boffin Oct 2013 #23
Yeah, looks like we replied at the same time. joshcryer Oct 2013 #25
I believe Alabama is one of the states which did not expand Medicaid Ms. Toad Oct 2013 #69
Yes, it is likely she doesn't. Bolo Boffin Oct 2013 #73
Yes, she could choose that plan if she wanted. I'm going to edited the above for more detail. Firebrand Gary Oct 2013 #19
Wow! I just paid with the calculator, and yes, with the tax credit, it's around that. joshcryer Oct 2013 #21
It's AMAZING...... No wonder the GOP wants to run us off the cliff, they are in soooo much trouble. Firebrand Gary Oct 2013 #26
What state is your mom in? B Calm Oct 2013 #15
California Firebrand Gary Oct 2013 #22
That explains it. AngryOldDem Oct 2013 #48
Check your exchange if you have one. joshcryer Oct 2013 #52
K & R SunSeeker Oct 2013 #18
She should take the BEST one she can afford, because that 10 year gap SoCalDem Oct 2013 #20
Agreed, with the tax credit it's like $50 tops. joshcryer Oct 2013 #24
We are going to step up and help her for whatever she needs. Suzy Orman is right, people first... Firebrand Gary Oct 2013 #28
Kick it! sheshe2 Oct 2013 #29
Thank you so much! We're thrilled! I think I also read that today is your birthday? Firebrand Gary Oct 2013 #30
That is so sweet~ sheshe2 Oct 2013 #33
Happy Birthday, sheshe! dorkzilla Oct 2013 #77
Nope, just got back from work in fact. sheshe2 Oct 2013 #81
Our website (WA) isn't up quite yet... Wounded Bear Oct 2013 #31
I'm up with a nasty JustAnotherGen Oct 2013 #32
So happy for your mom! Drunken Irishman Oct 2013 #34
$13000 a year LostinRed Oct 2013 #35
I believe you must be either 65 and/or disabled to qualify for Medicare nt steve2470 Oct 2013 #37
I think they meant medicaid, and I would think 13k is poverty level and she would qualify. n/t Humanist_Activist Oct 2013 #42
Depends on the zip code I THINK. joshcryer Oct 2013 #45
I don't see why it would matter, 13k is pretty much poverty level nationwide. n/t Humanist_Activist Oct 2013 #47
The plans in Colorado are county-based. joshcryer Oct 2013 #49
I guess I make around 13-15k after taxes, my pre-tax income is a little over 19k... Humanist_Activist Oct 2013 #50
Sorry to hear that. joshcryer Oct 2013 #51
Missouri's is being set up by the Federal Government, our State Government is split politically... Humanist_Activist Oct 2013 #54
Is the exchange working then? joshcryer Oct 2013 #56
Missouri has not expanded Medicaid Ms. Toad Oct 2013 #62
But traditionalMedicaid - Ms. Toad Oct 2013 #70
But the cutoff percentage of FPL for Medicaid eligibility varies state by state. winter is coming Oct 2013 #82
Depends on the state. If they don't live in a state that has expanded coverage, then no. Drunken Irishman Oct 2013 #63
Depends on the state. If the state didn't expand Medicaid, many of the poor are SharonAnn Oct 2013 #86
Medicare Premiums are also much higher than what the OP is saying his Mom's are Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #58
Of the ZIP codes I tried on the caculator, 13k qualified for Medi-Cal. joshcryer Oct 2013 #46
ok I just applied in my state, but I have to use the federal website which is fine steve2470 Oct 2013 #36
OBAMA! OBAMA! OBAMA! OBAMA! ellisonz Oct 2013 #39
Grown man... kinda weepy thinking about the reality of health insurance for $100 or less for the whttevrr Oct 2013 #40
The OP is a case example of working poor (wage slaves). joshcryer Oct 2013 #44
Wow, those Maximum Out-of-Pocket costs! Beartracks Oct 2013 #41
Yeah, it's per year, so you could have cancer, and that's all you pay. joshcryer Oct 2013 #43
$6350 out of pocket? progressoid Oct 2013 #67
If that is half of her income - Ms. Toad Oct 2013 #71
Those states are going to have surprises in the next elections IronLionZion Oct 2013 #75
That's what I'm thinking as well. Ms. Toad Oct 2013 #80
Let's hope you're right. But I'm sure they'll be blasted with propoganda... Beartracks Oct 2013 #84
I'm hoping the fact that the prices are available online will help IronLionZion Oct 2013 #85
IMHO, the economic stimulus will be huge! Mopar151 Oct 2013 #55
That Enhanced Silver is better than my insurance gollygee Oct 2013 #57
On that Bronze plan. Three doctor visits per year. What happens after that? Safetykitten Oct 2013 #64
There are no limits on doctor's visits on ANY of the plans. Ms. Toad Oct 2013 #72
What are the premiums? BlueCheese Oct 2013 #65
This shows the importance of getting Medicaid expansion passed... roamer65 Oct 2013 #66
Just forget about finding a doctor who will treat you or leaving anything to your heirs duffyduff Oct 2013 #83
A DUer last week demanded to know if I could look myself in the mirror for supporting ACA... Hekate Oct 2013 #68
Wouldn't she qualify for free Medicaid at that income level? pnwmom Oct 2013 #74
K&R! darkangel218 Oct 2013 #76
Exactly why the pukes are making a last ditch kamikaze attack tabasco Oct 2013 #78
I hope it's good because I don't understand any of those tables Link Speed Oct 2013 #79
Is the payment at the bottom the premium? If so why are there 3 columns? Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #88
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