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In reply to the discussion: You know those Blue Dog democrats everyone hated? [View all]BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)134. I'm sorry you see it that way.
I'm not making this personal. You shouldn't either.
I'm just trying to have a discussion on how we can learn from the mistakes in 2010 and try to rectify it - if that's even possible anymore.
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Agreed. Some among us won't stand for a BlueDogDem in a Red State (the only kind that would win)
BlueCaliDem
Oct 2013
#32
Me--here in PA. The only Democrats we elect here in Pennsyltucky are Blue Dogs. nt
msanthrope
Oct 2013
#60
Honey...Pennsyltucky doesn't include Philly or Pittsburgh..remember what Carville said? nt
msanthrope
Oct 2013
#200
Glad to have him. Would he be able to win outside the district that elected him?
Hekate
Oct 2013
#210
In other words, capitulating to the right, again and again, didn't save their careers?
villager
Oct 2013
#2
Well, they control it more. When Dems vote like Republicans, they still control it.
villager
Oct 2013
#65
My point is, when the country moves inexorably to the right, it's still moving inexorably
villager
Oct 2013
#73
Having Democrats who vote against Democrats 30% of the time is a BIG problem. nt
laundry_queen
Oct 2013
#254
But having Teapublicans vote against Democrats 98% is a much bigger problem, yes?
BlueCaliDem
Oct 2013
#261
This critical moment wouldn't be happening at all if we'd retained the majority in the House.
pnwmom
Oct 2013
#12
Oregon turnout in 2010 was record setting. No Blue Dogs to keep Democrats away.
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2013
#208
I've got a Blue Dog Kurt Schrader after redistricting. Went from Blumenauer's district (awesome!) to
neverforget
Oct 2013
#230
When liberals lose, their politics are the problem. When Blue Dogs lose, liberals are the problem.
Marr
Oct 2013
#196
Yes, a lot of people are wondering, A LOT about these constant attacks on Liberals
sabrina 1
Oct 2013
#198
But because the House was under Speaker Pelosi, ObamaCare was able to proceed
BlueCaliDem
Oct 2013
#39
Ed Schultz has propagated it on his radio show and his week-day television show.
BlueCaliDem
Oct 2013
#47
The problem with those stats is, for example, I consider myself a Liberal. But many here on DU
BlueCaliDem
Oct 2013
#130
If you have to revert to epithets such as "ultra-left" you really aren't that much of a liberal...
R. Daneel Olivaw
Oct 2013
#247
There was no offense taken, and I hope that you are less wrong in the future.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Oct 2013
#266
Is that what you did in your State? In Oregon in 2010 we had record breaking turnout
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2013
#99
Maybe if we would have run a real Democrat, instead of an imitation one, we would not have lost
RC
Oct 2013
#20
Well, you got YOUR way with that theory and people DID vote for Blue Dogs. Now
sabrina 1
Oct 2013
#180
Screaming subtext: it's the fault of progressives that government got shut down.
DisgustipatedinCA
Oct 2013
#26
You've been corrected on that point about a thousand times, so I can only conclude that
Marr
Oct 2013
#250
The Blue Dogs have themselves to blame is they couldn't defeat "crazy."
R. Daneel Olivaw
Oct 2013
#253
That is always the screaming subtext of the self-styled, right-leaning "pragmatists."
villager
Oct 2013
#52
Yep. They will. Due to the major state wins in 2010, districts have been gerrymandered
BlueCaliDem
Oct 2013
#55
Earth to OP: Dems lost the House in large part because of disillusionment at HCR and
leveymg
Oct 2013
#62
So how did the 9 Blue Dogs that voted with the Republicans yesterday help us control the House?
stranger81
Oct 2013
#63
But, but, but we have to support them. They're Democrats...even whe they side with Republicans.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Oct 2013
#103
So how was it the great outpouring of progressives in your district didn't rise up and primary him
onenote
Oct 2013
#87
Because our great and wise state Democratic party doesn't give a crap about anyone outside ATL
n2doc
Oct 2013
#90
And that's the way it is almost every place. Greedy, conservative cliques that guard the gates.
Egalitarian Thug
Oct 2013
#167
Wrong. Those Blue Dogs were replaced because they acted like Republicans.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Oct 2013
#96
Yeah well there was an election in 2012 too.. this OP is just one more today
SomethingFishy
Oct 2013
#119
Blue Dogs? Try Tea Dogs. 9 of them vote with the Republicans yesterday did they not?
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2013
#110
Many Blue Dogs voted against her as Speaker previously, so too many of them and you get
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2013
#199
The Speaker comes from the majority Party sure but that does not mean every member of
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2013
#277
Fox News NEVER blames the Democratic Party. They blame the Democrat Party. :)
valerief
Oct 2013
#239
Blud dog Democrats gave the majoirty to Democrats so Democrats could set the agenda.
Agnosticsherbet
Oct 2013
#156
Maybe, if they tried appealing to the left instead of the right, they'd have been elected.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Oct 2013
#166
Oh, well. If appealing to the left or right doesn't work, what does?
Tierra_y_Libertad
Oct 2013
#172
Still sticking with the lie the liberals didn't come out to vote in 2010?
LondonReign2
Oct 2013
#175
Not only that, but they took universal healthcare off the table as well. If they had been real
Zorra
Oct 2013
#182
Incumbent republicans also lost seats to tea party crazies. The biggest problem facing us is
lostincalifornia
Oct 2013
#204
Well, again, as the OP points out, they don't vote for John Boehner to be speaker
Recursion
Oct 2013
#249
Boy do I miss Joe Lieberman and all of his supporters both here on DU, and abroad.
adirondacker
Oct 2013
#257
Those guys were annoying, but at least they didn't threaten to burn the government down if they
Arkana
Oct 2013
#271
Are you kidding me. They would have thrown in with the teahadists 10 times by now.
lonestarnot
Oct 2013
#276