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In reply to the discussion: Was Jeff Gannon a journalist? [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)99. No, and your opinion is
The Constitution is clear on this. You are so wrong on this issue it boggles the mind.
The other side would like to 'define journalism' also. Fortunately the FFs understood that and were very clear about the protection of those who write their opinions.
YOU are now trying to 'define journalism' with this very question. That is so, very dangerous I don't know where to begin.
The other side would like to 'define journalism' also. Fortunately the FFs understood that and were very clear about the protection of those who write their opinions.
YOU are now trying to 'define journalism' with this very question. That is so, very dangerous I don't know where to begin.
...is deflection. I mean, this has nothing to do with "the other side."
The question has been met with statements defining journalists as "analyzing or reporting on current events or things in the public interest" or "writing" that is "meant to inform" or here:
No. Propaganda and advocacy journalism are not the same thing.
There's a difference between openly acknowledging bias in journalism and reporting factually-inaccurate writings.
No, a guy who deliberately publishes inaccurate information is not a journalist. Someone who reports with a slant but is factually accurate is. [/div
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023705947#post78
The fact is that just because someone says something and puts it in writing, and that person can because of freedom of speech protections, that doesn't make the person a journalist of the press.
There's a difference between openly acknowledging bias in journalism and reporting factually-inaccurate writings.
No, a guy who deliberately publishes inaccurate information is not a journalist. Someone who reports with a slant but is factually accurate is. [/div
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023705947#post78
The fact is that just because someone says something and puts it in writing, and that person can because of freedom of speech protections, that doesn't make the person a journalist of the press.
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I sense this is a loaded question, and you're going to ask the No voters "well then, what about..."
Electric Monk
Sep 2013
#4
He was a tool, but he most assuredly had White House press credentials.
DisgustipatedinCA
Sep 2013
#9
tou·ché - . (in fencing) used as an acknowledgment of a hit by one's opponent.
Douglas Carpenter
Sep 2013
#12
Well, obviously he can't be a journalist if we don't approve of him politically. DUH!
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2013
#19
A press pass is not a device for consitutional blessing. It's for WH security.
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2013
#31
What would the sheild law do to change Gannon's status, declared by the WH as it was?
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2013
#20
No less so than Chuck Todd but then again Todd gets paid so I guess that makes all the difference?
Uncle Joe
Sep 2013
#40
Exactly. That is why allowing government to define journalist is bullshit.
Luminous Animal
Sep 2013
#23
Yep, I was right. Nailed it with post #4, above. Probably thought you were so cute, didn't you? nt
Electric Monk
Sep 2013
#51
My first and primary question was 'what's this got to do with the sheild law' and you did your
Bluenorthwest
Sep 2013
#128
No. The fact that he was paid to portray one doesn't make him any more of a journalist
Tanuki
Sep 2013
#21
He was a sleepover@White House shaved hardbody GOP blogger with terrible taste in men
leveymg
Sep 2013
#27
You should take a shower and get a blood test if you got close enough to know that about Jimmy Jeff
leveymg
Sep 2013
#39
At times he appeared to be a propagandist, but he worked in the field of journalism
Agnosticsherbet
Sep 2013
#33
We should keep the name and the story alive. Jeff Gannon - GOP's favorite male prostitute.
JEFF9K
Sep 2013
#41
I think Spandan is a shitty blogger who should be rejected by all sane people
Bjorn Against
Sep 2013
#52
I know what it is. Are you saying that a person pushing propaganda is a journalist? n/t
ProSense
Sep 2013
#70
Actually, I'd say that both you and Gannon would be more accurately described as propagandists
Electric Monk
Sep 2013
#71
If they're analyzing or reporting on current events or things in the public interest, yes.
NuclearDem
Sep 2013
#59
That would be shitty tabloid journalism, but SCOTUS has repeatedly defended even that
NuclearDem
Sep 2013
#65
He covered the White House, got press credentials, was published, and had a readership.
WilliamPitt
Sep 2013
#50
When he wasn't pimping himself out for sexual service he wrote for a right wing rag
notadmblnd
Sep 2013
#56
"you can say anything, put it in writing, but it doesn't mean you're a journalist or the press."
Chan790
Sep 2013
#120
Is John Stewart? Stephen Colbert? Glen Greenwald? Matt Taibbi? Greg Palast?
SomethingFishy
Sep 2013
#98
when CNN was propagandizing to push the invasion of Iraq or the impeachment of Clinton, were they
Douglas Carpenter
Sep 2013
#100
I find the tendency toward authoritarianism by the majority of poll respondents here very disturbing
Douglas Carpenter
Sep 2013
#103
for all practical purposes it does - it define who is protected under shield laws and who is not
Douglas Carpenter
Sep 2013
#110
How did the 1st Amendment ever survive 224 years without defining journalist (or press)?
Faryn Balyncd
Sep 2013
#108
What's the point here? JG could have been a journo AND a male prostitute for a WH resident.
WinkyDink
Sep 2013
#148