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BelgianMadCow

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4. My take-home message was the change starts with me

Thu Sep 12, 2013, 03:11 PM

Sep 2013

and therefore, cannot be undone, unless I allow that to happen.

REVOLution = Occupy Love. It's pretty hard to do, because our society has become so individualistic and focused on greed and consumption. But it really works, and it's the most fundamental human trait: empathy. We are one.

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Here is the only lesson I learned from the Occupy Movement [View all] 1-Old-Man Sep 2013 OP

With help from the media ... Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2013 #1

Big brother will not tolerate the temerity of organized opposition to the establishment, indepat Sep 2013 #2

Occupy was "organized"? SunSeeker Sep 2013 #14

Well, would either loosely organized or spontaneous opposition work? indepat Sep 2013 #23

Do you spring up in hundreds of major cities and towns Downtown Hound Sep 2013 #82

Occupy prides itself on being a spontaneous, leaderless movement. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #83

Join Occupy and Find Out HangOnKids Sep 2013 #84

You can't "join" Occupy. You participate. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #89

Special! HangOnKids Sep 2013 #90

You're equating a leaderless "organizational structure" Downtown Hound Sep 2013 #85

I wish you were right, but the 1% is not terrified. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #86

So you were also hanging out with the 1% at the time Downtown Hound Sep 2013 #87

I don't hang out with the 1%, apparently you do. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #92

If you go by their actions Downtown Hound Sep 2013 #94

Those arrests were by local cops. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #95

Yes, they do love to get the piggies to do their work for them Downtown Hound Sep 2013 #97

Cops brutally arrest protesters fighting for collective bargaining and pensions. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #98

Time for you to wake up: Downtown Hound Sep 2013 #99

I'm awake and know several cops. They don't see themselves as working for the 1%. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #100

I'll have to defend your point in this one Xyzse Sep 2013 #103

here's what I took away- demwing Sep 2013 #3

The world needs one. A new 'Jesus', even. randome Sep 2013 #6

Yet even Jesus was co-opted long after his death. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #28

The only problem with that is if you put a singular face Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #26

^^^ +++ marions ghost Sep 2013 #36

I agree, leaders are needed. n/t Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #42

Joe, can I ask you a question? 1-Old-Man Sep 2013 #91

I think that must be someone else, Old Man Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #96

Nope, I'm in WV and the Joe who is my friend lives in Kentucky now days 1-Old-Man Sep 2013 #102

Uh, what can we do about that? truedelphi Sep 2013 #54

I took away just the opposite. Marr Sep 2013 #105

My take-home message was the change starts with me BelgianMadCow Sep 2013 #4

No doubt! Rex Sep 2013 #5

i learned that lesson questionseverything Sep 2013 #7

A lot of folks weren't around then for Kent State (I was, though). Bake Sep 2013 #12

A few takes Capt. Obvious Sep 2013 #8

The "dirty hippie" card....nice!!! U4ikLefty Sep 2013 #13

+1! How are ya, ya dirty old hippie? pinboy3niner Sep 2013 #24

That image looks more sinister on Time Magazine's Cover, doesn't it? Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #38

Hey niner!!! Long time no see. U4ikLefty Sep 2013 #52

I've been in touch with our other friends from the Occupy L.A. actions pinboy3niner Sep 2013 #59

Wow, very cool!!! U4ikLefty Sep 2013 #61

We definitely have to march together again pinboy3niner Sep 2013 #74

Awesome!!!! Scuba Sep 2013 #77

Thanks, Scuba pinboy3niner Sep 2013 #79

What happened to fire? randome Sep 2013 #75

More like disgusting hippy Capt. Obvious Sep 2013 #80

What about the accomplishments of the Occupy Movement? JaneQPublic Sep 2013 #9

Strike Debt, Occupy Sandy relief efforts, and Occupy Our Homes. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #18

Shhh, they really sisn't want an answer. U4ikLefty Sep 2013 #29

The Occupy movement revealed that smooth, smiling politicians are not always on our side. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #39

Framing the debate. Introducing class analysis to the mainstream discourse. Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #81

Good point. (nt) JaneQPublic Sep 2013 #88

What I learned was. iandhr Sep 2013 #10

Blaming Occupy for Walker losing? U4ikLefty Sep 2013 #16

First off Walker won iandhr Sep 2013 #17

I meant "losing the Walker recall." BTW, it's not "loosing" U4ikLefty Sep 2013 #25

Okay but what was the follow up. iandhr Sep 2013 #31

You were an OWS "supporter" U4ikLefty Sep 2013 #58

I was recovering from surgery at that time. iandhr Sep 2013 #64

That may explain why you missed all the news of Occupy Wisconsin's involvement in the Walker recall pinboy3niner Sep 2013 #73

I can attest that you were out in the streets pinboy3niner Sep 2013 #69

You probably shouldn't be correcting someone's else's spelling with that post...just sayin' VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #37

Yawn.....go back to shilling for war. U4ikLefty Sep 2013 #60

Yawn is right...go back to sleep..its what you do best. VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #65

Bullshit. The same People I saw at Occupy Milwaukee were working hard on the recall.... Scuba Sep 2013 #78

Bill Mahar said it best iandhr Sep 2013 #11

Wow. Spot on. nt SunSeeker Sep 2013 #21

His follow up.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #22

I was in so many canvasses, I lost count Kolesar Sep 2013 #46

OWS was not an insurgency. It was a leaderless protest movement. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #15

^^^^^This^^^ NightWatcher Sep 2013 #30

Their message worked. This country no longer buys the idea that the rich make this country great. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #19

And this is a lasting contribution marions ghost Sep 2013 #43

The Great Depression got everyone to thinking Wall Street was central to everyone's well being.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #48

I think people finally get the connection marions ghost Sep 2013 #57

There really WAS a time in this country when all you had to do to get a raise,... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #76

How long ago marions ghost Sep 2013 #106

The Reagan era ended that.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #107

Good points marions ghost Sep 2013 #109

The 70s and 80s was also the time of the rise of the legalized porn industry... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #110

Yeah marions ghost Sep 2013 #111

These guys would rail about "morality" in the bedroom.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #112

I'd be willing to bet a lot more people watch the Discovery Channels 'Men who made the World' 1-Old-Man Sep 2013 #50

The Republicans alienated a lot of people when they ran Romney.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #70

As many of the comments on this thread demonstrate U4ikLefty Sep 2013 #20

Yes, it's always a good idea to insult everyone who disagrees with your viewpoint... brooklynite Sep 2013 #34

Its the standard reaction here. iandhr Sep 2013 #41

I am a tool for the powers that be because... iandhr Sep 2013 #35

I think it worked. It was all about planting a seed. alfredo Sep 2013 #49

This is what I learned: When you capture everyone's attention have something better to say than, FSogol Sep 2013 #27

THANK YOU iandhr Sep 2013 #32

Anarchy doesn't work... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #40

They pointed out the rigged game. alfredo Sep 2013 #51

True, but the public only saw some guys camping in city parks without a permit. FSogol Sep 2013 #66

Those are the ones we will never reach. alfredo Sep 2013 #67

The only reason LittleGirl Sep 2013 #33

Important realization marions ghost Sep 2013 #44

That's my story LittleGirl Sep 2013 #47

Occupy was a PR, and it worked. It put the 1% vs the 99% alfredo Sep 2013 #45

Occupy Activists' New Fight for Regulation, Affordable Housing and Social Justice Agnosticsherbet Sep 2013 #53

This country crushed Occupy because it was afraid of it WHEN CRABS ROAR Sep 2013 #55

Actually I think it was the opposite. The country thought Occupy was a joke 1-Old-Man Sep 2013 #93

"Insurgency"? I think public apathy was more what killed it. Throd Sep 2013 #56

The word seemed to fit - not that we disagree. 1-Old-Man Sep 2013 #62

Yes, those missiles, jet fighters, and artillery the US used frazzled Sep 2013 #63

The US saves that big stuff for roody Sep 2013 #68

I learned that "lessons" and "messages" are hopelessly bourgeois outdated concepts Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #71

Occupy is a verb, not a noun. randome Sep 2013 #72

Occupy should have taken a lesson from the Tea Party Nevernose Sep 2013 #101

1% vs 99% It is still on our minds. The seed is planted, we need to tend the garden. alfredo Sep 2013 #104

I learned that I may be in the scope of a gov thug sniper when I protest. L0oniX Sep 2013 #108