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In reply to the discussion: No, Obama does not got this. No, he is not Brilliant. No, this was never his plan. [View all]Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)59. Oh, I have NO doubts that they're smarter than their "supporters" here
But that's not setting the bar terribly high, if you ask me.
Did Kerry make a mistake (I hate the word "gaffe," it's as bad as the "-gate" suffix!) No, because to make a mistake you have to be trying to do something. He was simply answering a question at a conference with his own opinion, not setting forth a policy that could succeed or fail. There's just no mistake to be made. According to CNN, this is how it went:
Assad "could turn over every single bit of his chemical weapons to the international community in the next week," Kerry said during a news conference with British Foreign Secretary William Hague. "But he isn't about to do it and it can't be done obviously."
In the same breath, Kerry makes it very clear he doesn't believe this is anything more than a rhetorical idea - he holds that Assad will never agree to such a thing, no way no how.
So when Assad comes up and says "Yeah, I'll do that," with the backing of Russia... Well, saying such a thing would catch the administration by surprise. That's not putting down the administration, it's simply noting that that's some shit that they not only didn't expect, but had clearly stated they did not expect.
I think that Kerry and Obama were very sincere about wanting to bomb Syria, very serious. if they're willing ot take this opportunity, that's great. But let's not pretend this was their design all along.
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No, Obama does not got this. No, he is not Brilliant. No, this was never his plan. [View all]
grahamhgreen
Sep 2013
OP
We'll see, I still fear he's just giving lip service and a week from now they'll be telling us why
grahamhgreen
Sep 2013
#4
He didn't have the votes in the House. Maybe not in the Senate. Simple as that.
leveymg
Sep 2013
#54
that's possible, otoh, having seen the extreme outraged reaction by the people
ellenrr
Sep 2013
#126
Obama and Kerry are much smarter than their smartest supporters here, let alone
geek tragedy
Sep 2013
#50
But I keep hearing that EVERYONE on DU "supports" this president and that NOBODY "hates" him
Number23
Sep 2013
#144
the part where some unnamed sourced says “There is no one in the administration who is taking this
Pretzel_Warrior
Sep 2013
#10
Awwww, someone's bitter that they can't bash Obama for being a warmonger. nt
geek tragedy
Sep 2013
#6
Why is it so hard to believe they're genuinely opposed to ridiculous wars sold by lies?
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2013
#35
attempting to validate present day Obama hate, using the same old arguement.....I voted for hime 2x
Sheepshank
Sep 2013
#139
Voting for Obama twice is the new "I'm not racist, I have black friends"?
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2013
#141
We don't deserve to vote Democratic! How ever can we regain your trust?
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2013
#145
No, they just really hate Obama. And the possibility of getting out of attacking Syria with Chem
kelliekat44
Sep 2013
#113
When one is on their feet for 10 and a half hours strait with zero breaks...
Lady Freedom Returns
Sep 2013
#151
He is not an idiot. Anything he has done or not done was planned all along. n-t
Logical
Sep 2013
#92
And you are sad that this pressure from all dems changed his mind all of the sudden! n-t
Logical
Sep 2013
#91
Russia likes this, because an international agreement strengthens and affirms Assad...
cigsandcoffee
Sep 2013
#15
The brilliant Vladimir Putin as arrived to save the day. He has got this. It is his plan.
pampango
Sep 2013
#20
silly fool.. this is his ruse to destroy social security while no one is looking!1!!11
dionysus
Sep 2013
#41
Kerry strategically revealed the Obama master plan in a carefully flubbed interview question!
bobduca
Sep 2013
#106
+ a million. And I'm sure it's a coincidence that so many so terrified by the BOG tend to be
Number23
Sep 2013
#146
That makes some semblance of sense so why bring it up on an anti Obama post. LOL!
4bucksagallon
Sep 2013
#93
If you even hold a lottery ticket's hope of "catching a break" from the right then you have no
TheKentuckian
Sep 2013
#120