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SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
19. Thank you Dr. Hilleman indeed!...
Thu Aug 29, 2013, 12:37 PM
Aug 2013

I put up a good article about Paul Offit a couple of months ago, that talked about Hilleman. Hilleman was a mentor to Offit. It's a long article, but well worth the read.

http://www.phillymag.com/articles/will-this-doctor-hurt-your-baby/

Hilleman had many admirable qualities. He was a loving father and husband, and he was a brilliant scientist, and he was pathologically modest. But he was not what you would call a “nice guy.” He had the dark, stormy eyebrows of a mafiosi. He kept shrunken heads representing the people he had fired on his desk as morbid trophies. He was caustically funny. He once said that while it seemed he was a bastard on the outside, “If you looked deeper inside, you still saw a bastard.” The first time Offit met Hilleman, in the late ’80s, Offit tried to make small talk by chatting about a prominent Philadelphia lawyer who had been in the news. “He’s a good lawyer,” Offit said. “Good?” Hilleman shot back. “He’s the prince of fucking darkness.”

Offit loved him instantly: “He was such a character.” He was also the greatest vaccine-maker of the 20th century. Hilleman made Jonas Salk look like a lightweight. He invented vaccines to prevent measles, mumps, rubella, hepatitis A and B, HiB, chicken pox, pneumococcus, and meningococcus. He also invented the MMR combination shot. He accomplished all of this despite working at the suburban Philadelphia labs of Merck, and not inside academia, like most of his vaccine-making colleagues. Hilleman used to refer to himself, half bitterly, half mischievously, as a bastion of “dirty industry.”


That bit is interesting. Hilleman made these discoveries while working for Merck. Evil big pharma strikes again!

Thanks for posting this.

Sid


Whew! At first I thought this was going to be anti-vaxer thread. HERVEPA Aug 2013 #1
The real irony is that the use of the MMR vaccine is the one method we have hedgehog Aug 2013 #12
Congrats on your coming grandchild, and YAY for your very smart daughter! CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2013 #2
I was just talking about how lucking my kids are they don't have to experience chicken pox kcr Aug 2013 #3
You should get vaccinated for shingles. Cleita Aug 2013 #6
I think the shingles vaccine is recommended for people 60 and older. hedgehog Aug 2013 #9
It used to be for 60 and older shanti Aug 2013 #64
I got shingles at 57... KinMd Aug 2013 #67
I heartily second this, Cleita Tanuki Aug 2013 #10
My MIL had permanent damage to her eye sight as a result of shingles. hedgehog Aug 2013 #16
I'll be getting the shingles vaccine, but my sister's had shingles twice (that can happen!) pnwmom Aug 2013 #15
I'm glad you are getting vaccinated Tanuki Aug 2013 #23
I've had shingles and it was horrible. haikugal Aug 2013 #26
My husband got shingles before age 60; the doc had him come in for the vax when he got better Hekate Aug 2013 #51
I was in my 20's.... haikugal Aug 2013 #60
You can get shingles more than once, so the vaccine is probably a good idea for you, too. pnwmom Aug 2013 #62
What a horrible thought... haikugal Aug 2013 #63
My sister had it as a teen and again in middle age. So we know it can happen. n/t pnwmom Aug 2013 #66
Like any disease the severity of shingles can vary from person to person. dflprincess Aug 2013 #61
I've never had chicken pox. Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2013 #35
Yes. If you haven't been vaccinated, it seems like a good idea. Cleita Aug 2013 #36
Thank you, Cleita. :) Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2013 #38
I'm totally pro-vaccine, got my son the chicken pox one RiffRandell Aug 2013 #73
Chicken pox or the vaccine? nt Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2013 #76
The vaccine! RiffRandell Aug 2013 #77
I have my moments. Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2013 #78
Same here. I managed to get it at the same time I got Mono. I was pretty sick. stevenleser Aug 2013 #31
One of my kids got the chicken pox vaccine, but the other one came down with chicken pox the day Brickbat Aug 2013 #4
One of my daughters also has a scar on her face from chicken pox. hedgehog Aug 2013 #8
I have a scar on my face from chicken pox WolverineDG Aug 2013 #56
My experience was much the same as yours. I have 4 kids, ages 35 to 45. Arkansas Granny Aug 2013 #5
I'm 48 and got the MMR vaccine - my pediatrician was ahead of the curve on vaccinations REP Aug 2013 #47
I am 40 and I had it too -- plus boosters for overseas travel in my late 20s -- vaccines are good! anneboleyn Aug 2013 #52
There's currently a measles outbreak in North Texas tammywammy Aug 2013 #7
I had the real thing (chicken pox) Now Blood Banks Seek me out Xipe Totec Aug 2013 #11
I never knew that chicken pox caused problems during pregnancy. hedgehog Aug 2013 #14
It is rare Xipe Totec Aug 2013 #17
Chicken pox in adults can be extremely dangerous. I lost a beloved uncle at age 72 kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #20
I had it when I was 8 years old Xipe Totec Aug 2013 #22
I've never had chicken pox. Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2013 #37
I believe you can and should. I will look it up and edit this post with info. kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #45
Thank you! Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2013 #46
Wow, I didn't realize that I could get chicken pox from ... Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2013 #48
There were six kids in my family theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #13
My oldest son has never had the chicken pox...he is 43 yrs. old. When his wife was pregnant he.. Tikki Aug 2013 #18
Thank you Dr. Hilleman indeed!... SidDithers Aug 2013 #19
Bookmarked to read later, thanks! hedgehog Aug 2013 #21
Great read ismnotwasm Aug 2013 #27
Thank you ismnotwasm Aug 2013 #24
I'm so tired of the anti-vaxxers - TBF Aug 2013 #25
You will need BOOSTERS for the rest of your lives HockeyMom Aug 2013 #28
The benefit of getting these life long immunity to these diseases is received at the cost hedgehog Aug 2013 #29
I had shingles a couple years ago arikara Aug 2013 #33
Your discussion of a trigger is informative. I wonder if the prevalence of colonoscopies mnhtnbb Aug 2013 #41
You might suggest to her arikara Aug 2013 #43
Stress, and meds HockeyMom Aug 2013 #53
This argument sounds like the medical version of "I got mine, fuck you"... Humanist_Activist Aug 2013 #39
As I said in my new post, HockeyMom Aug 2013 #54
Who are "they"? hedgehog Aug 2013 #55
Drug Manufacturers HockeyMom Aug 2013 #58
As it happens, the supply of vaccines is under threat because the hedgehog Aug 2013 #69
Continue living in your magic bubble. n/t Humanist_Activist Aug 2013 #59
I am 65 and take NOTHING HockeyMom Aug 2013 #82
You are lucky, and living in a magic bubble that doesn't apply to everyone... Humanist_Activist Aug 2013 #84
As always, potential for high profit comes at the cost of high risk Celefin Aug 2013 #42
Well, lucky you. My baby sis's health was compromised the rest of her childhood after our bro & I... Hekate Aug 2013 #80
Talk about vaccinations.. Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #30
Yellow fever is a haemorragic fever in the same category as Ebola! hedgehog Aug 2013 #32
I've never had any of them including Chicken Pox. Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2013 #34
If there is any question - talk to your health care provider hedgehog Aug 2013 #40
Thanks. Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2013 #49
Do you realize-- YarnAddict Aug 2013 #44
Her daughter was vaccinated against those diseases NickB79 Aug 2013 #50
Vaccines don't work for everyone. Mariana Aug 2013 #83
The risk of the disease is so much worse than any risk of bad reactions to the vaccine johnd83 Aug 2013 #57
Kick for the evening crowd... SidDithers Aug 2013 #65
I had everything that was contagious when I was a kid. Lugnut Aug 2013 #68
Before this thread, did you realize what your kids had been spared? hedgehog Aug 2013 #70
I sure did. Lugnut Aug 2013 #75
I have a FB friend that is so anti-vaccine. RiffRandell Aug 2013 #71
I had a male cousin who died of throat cancer at age 58 - hedgehog Aug 2013 #72
My husband got oral cancer at 39. RiffRandell Aug 2013 #74
I Missed The Polio Vaccine by One Month otohara Aug 2013 #79
When the polio vax was first offered, a clinic was held at our elementary school... Hekate Aug 2013 #81
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