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ucrdem

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35. Funny you should ask . . .

Sat Aug 17, 2013, 12:40 PM

Aug 2013

from a speech I imagine had been in the works long before Snowball popped up to help wingers steal a little of Obama's thunder:

Obama Proposes Surveillance-Policy Overhaul
Updated August 9, 2013

The most significant proposal would restructure the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, the secret court that oversees surveillance programs in the U.S., to provide for an advocate for privacy concerns.

Mr. Obama is also seeking unspecified reforms to the Patriot Act to increase oversight and place more constraints on the provision that permits government seizure of business records.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324522504579002653564348842.html

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LETTER From Obama "Specifically To Inform Congress" of NSA Spying-WITHHELD By House Intell Committee [View all] kpete Aug 2013 OP

This all seems aimed at Obama by a basher and coordinated with the GOP. The amount of outrage uponit7771 Aug 2013 #1

The US Congress, both parties, has completely fucked the pup on this one. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #2

That's if one believes all the reports of "pups" being fucked... I don't, they're mostly coming uponit7771 Aug 2013 #5

love this new meme: b/c voter suppression exists, NSA concerns unwarranted nashville_brook Aug 2013 #18

OVERT Strawman noted, good indicator fudr central hasn't given a response to it...truth is hard uponit7771 Aug 2013 #36

Is Ron Wyden one of those 'bashers'? I have a feeling he can handle more than one issue at a time. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #59

Smear the messenger. Octafish Aug 2013 #4

Facts don't hurt, facts about SnowGlen don't hurt either I trust them less and I trust their motives uponit7771 Aug 2013 #6

WikiLeaks opened up the gangster's world. Octafish Aug 2013 #9

Funny you mention Padilla. What exactly did wikileaks "teach" us about Jose Padilla? ucrdem Aug 2013 #15

Nice job of obfuscation. Octafish Aug 2013 #19

"The government" changed hands following the November 2008 election. ucrdem Aug 2013 #22

Really? You imply I said something that I didn't. That's a cheap propaganda technique, ucrdem. Octafish Aug 2013 #26

Did you notice that Petraeus took a powder the day after Obama won reelection ucrdem Aug 2013 #27

Laugh all you want. I don't see you adding to what we know. Octafish Aug 2013 #30

p.s. it isn't obfuscation to point out that Assange carries water for the Bush league. ucrdem Aug 2013 #25

So that picture explains why Padilla doesn't deserve his Constitutional rights. Octafish Aug 2013 #32

That isn't my position. It's the one Assange is propping up. nt ucrdem Aug 2013 #33

post 15 you said concerning questionseverything Aug 2013 #61

Rec AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #29

well put. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #44

SnowGlen? LOL! Rex Aug 2013 #53

Are you the arbitrator of or proportion when it comes to rage? One can multitask Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #63

what nonsense stupidicus Aug 2013 #48

You don't like information coming out that makes Obama look bad LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #52

not, if Obama cured cancer bashers, wingers and SnowGangers would say he's putting doctors uponit7771 Aug 2013 #55

Ah, yes. There's the "Blame America!!!" claim JoeyT Aug 2013 #56

Wrong, blame America's government...seems KKKons and SnowGangers see them as totally different... uponit7771 Aug 2013 #57

Secret Laws and Secret Government are un-American. Octafish Aug 2013 #3

If this isn't oversight and accountability, what would you call it? ucrdem Aug 2013 #12

All that would never have seen the light of day were it not for Snowden. Octafish Aug 2013 #14

Says who? ucrdem Aug 2013 #16

Says history. Octafish Aug 2013 #17

Remember Pat Tillman? Who expressed disillusionment in his private correspondence? ucrdem Aug 2013 #20

Is this the first time you've posted on Pat Tillman, ucrdem? Octafish Aug 2013 #28

Thank you. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #46

Which steps were taken to correct the errors? David Krout Aug 2013 #31

Funny you should ask . . . ucrdem Aug 2013 #35

dude, Obama gave that speech after the leaks David Krout Aug 2013 #38

The journey of a thousand miles begins with the first steps ucrdem Aug 2013 #40

Which steps were those? Did the errors decrease from 2011 to 2012? nt David Krout Aug 2013 #41

Quadrupling the NSA oversight staff, for one thing. ucrdem Aug 2013 #43

Exactly. n/t Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #50

+1 Rex Aug 2013 #54

Which is why that document should have been provided to Congress. DevonRex Aug 2013 #60

That would be everyone mucking this up now Hydra Aug 2013 #7

You are right about that. It seems everybody has screwed it up. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #23

The strategy being BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #8

Key paragraph.... Triana Aug 2013 #10

Thanks Triana Cha Aug 2013 #49

I do not see a single word against Obama in this entire thread. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #51

But this particular instance, it seems the blame falls on this committee and/or Congress - not questionseverything Aug 2013 #62

Gvt branches throwing each other under the bus = priceless leftstreet Aug 2013 #11

If you are defending, you are losing. mick063 Aug 2013 #13

He went on tv saying we didn't do these things. Then the audit shows we did. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #24

If you're stoking you're standing out, leaders aren't all knowing...I like Obama's response so far.. uponit7771 Aug 2013 #42

I would love to know the exact distribution of that memo. hootinholler Aug 2013 #21

Awww... the congressional dog ate the White House's homework! MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #34

For some reason, the buck always stops somewhere else. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #45

Most succinct and accurate post of the lot hueymahl Aug 2013 #47

Frantic blame chucking will now ensue. DirkGently Aug 2013 #37

K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #39

I'm not sure why people are raging in defense of Obama in this thread. JoeyT Aug 2013 #58