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In reply to the discussion: Obama: NSA Surveillance Was Necessary To Make Sure Boston Bombings Weren't Part Of Bigger Plot [View all]AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)26. oh horseshit
Get the names of the bombers, get a warrant (I'm sure one judge could be roused) and send the warrant to the phone companies. That is called police work.
Getting the metadata on everybody is called warrantless search and seizure.
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Obama: NSA Surveillance Was Necessary To Make Sure Boston Bombings Weren't Part Of Bigger Plot [View all]
Ichingcarpenter
Aug 2013
OP
And exactly what tools did they use to check on that? b/c if it's information from...
allin99
Aug 2013
#2
"a bombing which no intelligence agency spotted beforehand" - except the FSB
Warren Stupidity
Aug 2013
#3
Because these agencies do not communicate well together so information was not shared between them.
avaistheone1
Aug 2013
#57
Because the Surveillance is to keep Mr and Mrs America and their bratty kids in line
Demeter
Aug 2013
#69
They say they've prevented many terrorist plots!... That they ENTRAPPED the suspects!
cascadiance
Aug 2013
#7
Exactly. They had all the tools they are so confident in to stop that bombing and they failed.
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#94
It's also a 'regular talking point' of all LE agencies when they do their jobs legitimately.
randome
Aug 2013
#101
The NSA does not monitor domestic communications so they can't be at fault for Boston.
randome
Aug 2013
#9
Same fuck-up as WTC '93, 9/11. Yes, I would do something differently, and I specified exactly
leveymg
Aug 2013
#61
Hard for them to miss, since Russia tried to INFORM US that these guys were suspicious.
AtheistCrusader
Aug 2013
#34
The "before" and "after" aspect of how meta data can be used really throws some people
JoePhilly
Aug 2013
#77
No trust is required. Nothing prevents LE from abusing their authority. Not a thing.
randome
Aug 2013
#137
Could the plot have been foiled using traditional methods of surveillance?
The Corrector
Aug 2013
#25
I can't find the "balance" part he keeps talking about in the 4th amendment...
truebrit71
Aug 2013
#31
This is just a horseshit explanation from an Administration that has gone power hungry.
1-Old-Man
Aug 2013
#39
It's even worse that we thought. All those Methodist Churches and State University
jtuck004
Aug 2013
#87
The NSA/TSA/FBI/CIA: Keeping us safe by preventing the LAST terrorist attack!
markpkessinger
Aug 2013
#51
Sadly, I'm starting to realize who the real idiot is here and it isn't you or me. Going to be
Purveyor
Aug 2013
#64
So someone has proof the NSA didn't get a warrant in tracking the brothers' communications?
KittyWampus
Aug 2013
#68
Tamarlan was on 3 terrorist lists, but managed to leave the country shortly after the murder of
leveymg
Aug 2013
#78
I asked a pretty simple question-after the fail that was Boston- isn't that when it's appropriate
KittyWampus
Aug 2013
#80
The point I'm making is that the counterterror system fails often with CIA double-agents, and
leveymg
Aug 2013
#82
Well, we both will agree then on the spectacular waste of money involved. And too much information
KittyWampus
Aug 2013
#84
Counterterrorism and detective work don't make many contractors rich, NSA surveillance systems do
leveymg
Aug 2013
#88
As a parent, I'd like to know BEFORE the bomb went off...or the planes are hijacked...
Octafish
Aug 2013
#81
Shameless post based on dishonest "article" based on a completely unobjectionable
ucrdem
Aug 2013
#90
Very true. In fact, DUer stevenleser made the connection two months ago right here
ucrdem
Aug 2013
#105
Yes. Obama has a habit of fixing things the neocons would prefer to leave broken. nt
ucrdem
Aug 2013
#112
Stunning to see this coming from a Democrat. Scare tactics I expect to see only from
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#92
The writer doesn't understand that they are trying to prevent "terrorist events"
pnwmom
Aug 2013
#93
this doesn't require deep understanding. A freaking first grader could grasp this.
KittyWampus
Aug 2013
#126
So you're saying if they didn't catch it before it happened, there was no need to
treestar
Aug 2013
#121
Didn't the general public find out who did this after they released the picture
Arctic Dave
Aug 2013
#131