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NickB79

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39. This study can be used to SUPPORT the NRA's talking point

Wed Jul 31, 2013, 12:39 PM

Jul 2013

Which seems to be something missed on most posters here who didn't read the ACTUAL source of the report:

The model suggests that the rate of firearm-induced homicides can be
minimized either by a ban of private firearm possession, or by
the legal availability of guns for everyone, depending on the
parameter values.

So, you could reduce gun violence two ways: either ban all guns, or give out guns like candy!

This study seems to have something for everyone.

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California Mathematicians Develop Equation to Prevent Shootings [View all] BainsBane Jul 2013 OP

Anything which helps dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #1

You'll never see this reported on FAUX napkinz Jul 2013 #2

Does The NRA Understand Math cantbeserious Jul 2013 #3

NRA Math ... napkinz Jul 2013 #4

Here it is BainsBane Jul 2013 #9

NRA and GOP logic Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #22

This study can be used to SUPPORT the NRA's talking point NickB79 Jul 2013 #39

Arm the poor! Nevernose Jul 2013 #45

Interesting approach. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #5

I love how gun nuts hate the news BainsBane Jul 2013 #10

What's with this "you people"? Let's quit personalizing these debates & return to facts. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #13

Okay, fair enough BainsBane Jul 2013 #15

Just going by what the authors state. You are welcome to your own interpretations. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #19

Conclusions BainsBane Jul 2013 #20

Nice cherry pick. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #25

Yours is from the abstract BainsBane Jul 2013 #32

You are wrong. I link directly to the pdf of the study and quote directly from the conclusions. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #37

"An armed society is a polite society." [...] widespread free mental health care Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #12

What happened to discussing the facts in the study? BainsBane Jul 2013 #17

The study suggest justification for more guns- and no guns. They get to have it both ways. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #21

I discussed the facts of the results of the study and used that as a point of departure. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #26

I don't object to those measures you propose BainsBane Jul 2013 #27

Guns are a problem, but people are a bigger problem. Progressive solutions solve the bigger problem Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #30

Evidence shows you are wrong BainsBane Jul 2013 #31

Avoid binary thinking and especially pigeon-holing. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #29

Will the GOP legislatures make it illegal for math teachers to talk about crime or trauma... Kolesar Jul 2013 #6

Yes - Truth = Terrorism - It's A Brave New World cantbeserious Jul 2013 #7

In Arkansas they are training to carry concealed weapons in schools BainsBane Jul 2013 #8

Ohio's forensic topic was "crime" when I was a high school junior on the debate team Kolesar Jul 2013 #11

What was it Mark Twain said? Bake Jul 2013 #14

You don't need to wonder BainsBane Jul 2013 #16

Or, in other words, "don't show me research that contradicts BainsBane Jul 2013 #18

Thanks for proving my point Bake Jul 2013 #28

Person - Gun = Prevented Shooting Motown_Johnny Jul 2013 #23

Such clear logic BainsBane Jul 2013 #24

Kicking for this reply. Well done. Robb Jul 2013 #47

Seems pretty sketchy to me. eomer Jul 2013 #33

It is sketchy. And inconclusive. The op climbs out on limb and tries to pass it off geckosfeet Jul 2013 #38

heuristic but resolving very little HereSince1628 Jul 2013 #34

Gun ownership is up, concealed carry is way up, gun accidents and gun homicides are down. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #35

So? The best way to reduce crime may be to Nunliebekinder Jul 2013 #36

kick napkinz Jul 2013 #40

So making guns more available will reduce gun violence? hack89 Jul 2013 #41

No, I have not had a lobotomy nt. BainsBane Jul 2013 #42

Yet you support a study that presents two options to reduce gun violence hack89 Jul 2013 #43

We weren't supposed to notice either the "guns for all" option or the altered title. friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #44

Critics will immediately zero in on the mathematicians' foreign sounding names. Quantess Jul 2013 #46