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geckosfeet

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5. Interesting approach.

Wed Jul 31, 2013, 06:12 AM

Jul 2013

The model suggests that the rate of firearm-induced homicides can be
minimized either by a ban of private firearm possession, or by
the legal availability of guns for everyone, depending on the
parameter values. While there is strong indication that the model
assumptions and hence the properties are consistent with data, it
will be important to collect more data to back up the underlying
assumptions more strongly.

Dependence of the Firearm-Related Homicide Rate on Gun Availability: A Mathematical Analysis

Interesting conclusion.

Seems like they went to a lot of trouble to develop a mathematical model that spews out the positions of the two polar opposites in the gun control debate.

Tits on a bull as they say.

And your OP subject line is misleading - the model was NOT developed to prevent shootings.

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California Mathematicians Develop Equation to Prevent Shootings [View all] BainsBane Jul 2013 OP

Anything which helps dipsydoodle Jul 2013 #1

You'll never see this reported on FAUX napkinz Jul 2013 #2

Does The NRA Understand Math cantbeserious Jul 2013 #3

NRA Math ... napkinz Jul 2013 #4

Here it is BainsBane Jul 2013 #9

NRA and GOP logic Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #22

This study can be used to SUPPORT the NRA's talking point NickB79 Jul 2013 #39

Arm the poor! Nevernose Jul 2013 #45

Interesting approach. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #5

I love how gun nuts hate the news BainsBane Jul 2013 #10

What's with this "you people"? Let's quit personalizing these debates & return to facts. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #13

Okay, fair enough BainsBane Jul 2013 #15

Just going by what the authors state. You are welcome to your own interpretations. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #19

Conclusions BainsBane Jul 2013 #20

Nice cherry pick. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #25

Yours is from the abstract BainsBane Jul 2013 #32

You are wrong. I link directly to the pdf of the study and quote directly from the conclusions. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #37

"An armed society is a polite society." [...] widespread free mental health care Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #12

What happened to discussing the facts in the study? BainsBane Jul 2013 #17

The study suggest justification for more guns- and no guns. They get to have it both ways. geckosfeet Jul 2013 #21

I discussed the facts of the results of the study and used that as a point of departure. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #26

I don't object to those measures you propose BainsBane Jul 2013 #27

Guns are a problem, but people are a bigger problem. Progressive solutions solve the bigger problem Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #30

Evidence shows you are wrong BainsBane Jul 2013 #31

Avoid binary thinking and especially pigeon-holing. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #29

Will the GOP legislatures make it illegal for math teachers to talk about crime or trauma... Kolesar Jul 2013 #6

Yes - Truth = Terrorism - It's A Brave New World cantbeserious Jul 2013 #7

In Arkansas they are training to carry concealed weapons in schools BainsBane Jul 2013 #8

Ohio's forensic topic was "crime" when I was a high school junior on the debate team Kolesar Jul 2013 #11

What was it Mark Twain said? Bake Jul 2013 #14

You don't need to wonder BainsBane Jul 2013 #16

Or, in other words, "don't show me research that contradicts BainsBane Jul 2013 #18

Thanks for proving my point Bake Jul 2013 #28

Person - Gun = Prevented Shooting Motown_Johnny Jul 2013 #23

Such clear logic BainsBane Jul 2013 #24

Kicking for this reply. Well done. Robb Jul 2013 #47

Seems pretty sketchy to me. eomer Jul 2013 #33

It is sketchy. And inconclusive. The op climbs out on limb and tries to pass it off geckosfeet Jul 2013 #38

heuristic but resolving very little HereSince1628 Jul 2013 #34

Gun ownership is up, concealed carry is way up, gun accidents and gun homicides are down. GreenStormCloud Jul 2013 #35

So? The best way to reduce crime may be to Nunliebekinder Jul 2013 #36

kick napkinz Jul 2013 #40

So making guns more available will reduce gun violence? hack89 Jul 2013 #41

No, I have not had a lobotomy nt. BainsBane Jul 2013 #42

Yet you support a study that presents two options to reduce gun violence hack89 Jul 2013 #43

We weren't supposed to notice either the "guns for all" option or the altered title. friendly_iconoclast Jul 2013 #44

Critics will immediately zero in on the mathematicians' foreign sounding names. Quantess Jul 2013 #46