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AgingAmerican

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Wed Jul 31, 2013, 02:56 AM Jul 2013

Expert Says NSA Have Backdoors Built Into Intel And AMD Processors [View all]

CHRISTOPHER JOYE AND PAUL SMITH

One of Silicon Valley’s most respected technology experts, Steve Blank, says he would be “surprised” if the US National Security Agency was not embedding “back doors” inside chips produced by Intel and AMD, two of the world’s largest semiconductor firms, giving them the possibility to access and control machines.

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The claims come after The ­Australian Financial Review revealed that computers made by Chinese firm Lenovo are banned from the “secret” and “top secret” ­networks of the intelligence and defence services of Australia, the US, Britain, Canada and New Zealand because of concerns they are vulnerable to being hacked.

If correct, the allegations would raise the stakes in a growing cyber cold war, and fuel claims that US snooping leaves the Chinese in the shade.

http://www.afr.com/p/technology/intel_chips_could_be_nsa_key_to_ymrhS1HS1633gCWKt5tFtI

Another expert, Jonathan Brossard, who works in the field of Penetration Testing says he has demonstrated proof of this concept and proved what is almost an undetectable and incurable back door. He did so at last years black hat conference and has arrived at the same conclusion as Steve Blank. This is all made possible by the fact Intel and AMD can update the microcode on the small reprogrammable part of the CPU which gets updated every time a Microsoft update is installed. Thus the NSA can theoretically be part of this microcode and could be involved in exploiting it since they work so closely with Microsoft and other technology companies.

http://www.eteknix.com/expert-says-nsa-have-backdoors-built-into-intel-and-amd-processors/

This means that encryption is meaningless. They have pre-encryption access to everything.

The hits just keep on coming.

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little bit fud PowerToThePeople Jul 2013 #1
Yes AgingAmerican Jul 2013 #2
I don't have time to build my own computer... Agschmid Jul 2013 #39
Install Linux Mint AgingAmerican Jul 2013 #40
The hits just keep on coming? Yeah, it's a regular hit parade. Asshats. Th1onein Jul 2013 #3
This report is bullcarp intaglio Jul 2013 #7
I call bullshit on this. longship Jul 2013 #4
You seem to have a mix up with hardware and software. napoleon_in_rags Jul 2013 #9
And my mother was the queen of Romania. longship Jul 2013 #10
here is some microcode that could be activated PowerToThePeople Jul 2013 #19
You can disable microcode on Linux boxes. joshcryer Jul 2013 #22
true. PowerToThePeople Jul 2013 #25
Check your BIOS updates, too, it may be applying them. joshcryer Jul 2013 #26
Cool this AgingAmerican Jul 2013 #38
All you need to do is read the Lenovo story: napoleon_in_rags Jul 2013 #37
It isn't necessarily true that an Intel chip backdoor would be found. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #11
A backdoor can be discovered, but non-trivially. joshcryer Jul 2013 #16
What about this one? Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #32
I'm amused by the idea that it was a maybe a 'bug.' joshcryer Jul 2013 #33
That was reaching pretty far to come up with an explanation, alright. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #34
Yeah, microcode is boot level, it is not a rewrite. joshcryer Jul 2013 #13
Hasn't that been everyone's assumption, all along? Same w/commercially available encryption? leveymg Jul 2013 #5
Sorry, I had at least ONE illusion left. Th1onein Aug 2013 #43
K&R DeSwiss Jul 2013 #6
Nothing Would Surprise Me cantbeserious Jul 2013 #8
Microsoft again. nt bemildred Jul 2013 #12
Microcode can be implemented in any OS. joshcryer Jul 2013 #14
"which gets updated every time a Microsoft update is installed" nt bemildred Jul 2013 #15
Or whenever a Linux microcode patch is released... joshcryer Jul 2013 #17
Are you saying Linux uses Microsoft microcode patches? nt bemildred Jul 2013 #18
The microcode is released by the CPU vendors. joshcryer Jul 2013 #20
That could get interesting. Sort of like a grenade. bemildred Jul 2013 #21
FWIW, I have applied microcode patches to CPUs on numerous occasions. bemildred Jul 2013 #23
Same here. joshcryer Jul 2013 #24
You still have to have a network port. bemildred Jul 2013 #27
Great... whttevrr Jul 2013 #28
Nothing to do at the moment, I'm not. bemildred Jul 2013 #30
Use Linux, disable the microcode, use OpenBIOS. joshcryer Jul 2013 #29
I have some quite ancient machines which can still surf well-enough too. bemildred Jul 2013 #31
The "'spying" capabilities of microcode would be very, very limited. Xithras Jul 2013 #35
I think this posting shows an utter lack of understanding of how the NSA works 1-Old-Man Jul 2013 #36
It's all very interesting, on an academic sort of basis. MineralMan Jul 2013 #41
I can provide one fact about the NSA and microprocessor companies. SlipperySlope Jul 2013 #42
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