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In reply to the discussion: Already, another Trayvon Martin incident has just happened [View all]Pelican
(1,156 posts)15. For those who don't want to follow the links...
Landry and some others were cruising up and down the street during the day...
From the article
Hazouri said his video, which he gave to NOPD detectives, shows the two teens talking in the middle of Mandeville Street outside of Landry's house. The video then shows the teen in the light-colored T-shirt walk his bike across Mandeville toward Landry's house. Then, the teen walks back out to the middle of the road before climbing over Landry's fence, Hazouri said. The other teen in the tank top stayed on the other side of Mandeville Street, Hazouri said.
Landry's large dog started barking, which alerted Landry to the teen being inside his yard, according to Landry's friends.
Landry, who has a pregnant wife and baby daughter, believed the teen was trying to break into his house, Hazouri said.
Landry's large dog started barking, which alerted Landry to the teen being inside his yard, according to Landry's friends.
Landry, who has a pregnant wife and baby daughter, believed the teen was trying to break into his house, Hazouri said.
Why was he on his property with his other friend acting like a lookout?
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She charged into the house with the gun. That isn't defense. Check out the links. N/T
GreenStormCloud
Jul 2013
#468
Green, I concur with your sensibilities. As a law student, as someone who has studied the law
cecilfirefox
Jul 2013
#498
Correct. This wouldn't be a Stand Your Ground case. But LA is also a Castle Doctrine state.
Xithras
Jul 2013
#507
Wonder why he jumped the fence into the yard. Article doesn't explain that part...
Tx4obama
Jul 2013
#6
The shooter was in a "Shoot first and ask questions later" frame of mind....
TheDebbieDee
Jul 2013
#11
Then you'd better make a good decision about how you are in fear of your life
treestar
Jul 2013
#456
You only have to follow their advice, if that's what you want to do. I wouldn't trust a firearms
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#281
if you understand how NRA bard elections go you would know generalmemership has little sway
ceonupe
Jul 2013
#314
Courses taught by those certified by organization answering to gun manufacturers are a little too
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#319
Deliberate shots to wound are illegal. Such a shot is evidence against you.
GreenStormCloud
Jul 2013
#406
it was 2 am. pizza guys usually phone the home when they're lost, they don't jump the gate.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#136
and, unfortunately, the bound of "private property" is being extended and extended
DrDan
Jul 2013
#287
He want to play 'tug o war' with things, so I bought a hemp rope, but he doesn't play with it.
AnotherDreamWeaver
Jul 2013
#337
if it were a white teenager climbing my fence to get in my yard after dark (2 am) while his friend
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#32
i said i wouldn't shoot. and i would call the police, since our response times are good. but
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#49
How does a possible burglary that hasn't happened justify the death penalty? n/t
pnwmom
Jul 2013
#124
So trespassing = death penalty!?!!? Yes DU, you've been overun by fudr no doubt
uponit7771
Jul 2013
#491
They guy was 30 feet away, the witness's say he was no threat and the shooter has been charged in th
uponit7771
Jul 2013
#502
Yes, people are usually against overt racist like Zimmerman so I think there were plenty of cries
uponit7771
Jul 2013
#506
It doesn't. Even if he was planning to break in, he wasn't a threat yet.
GreenStormCloud
Jul 2013
#412
Winding roads in the typical suburban housing complex make for many shortcuts through yards.
JVS
Jul 2013
#26
there is no alley. the house is faced by houses on three sides. they butt up against each other.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#445
Perhaps you would have a more effective point if you discussed the dangers of alcohol and drugs
busterbrown
Jul 2013
#66
I’ll doubt you’ll be hearing him at a press conference talking about his intolerance..
busterbrown
Jul 2013
#89
he doesn't have a 'lawn'. look at the properties in the neighborhood before you say dumb things.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#67
except the victim isn't dead; it's "attempted". i'm not arguing whether or not the shooting
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#88
you're ridiculous. there was no legitimate reason for him being on their property at 2 am.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#96
BUT there are a range of even criminal acts that DO NOT warrant deadly force.
AtheistCrusader
Jul 2013
#99
i'm not debating over whether deadly force was or was not warranted. i'm arguing that bane's
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#106
'castle doctrine' is not an explicit written statement, it's a body of tradition, precedent & law.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#451
Except of course that I EXPLICITLY said it didn't warrant deadly force.
AtheistCrusader
Jul 2013
#80
You handwaved his presence away as being a simple matter of passing through the yard.
AtheistCrusader
Jul 2013
#107
There is a spectrum of nefarious intent that lies OUTSIDE the continuum warranting
AtheistCrusader
Jul 2013
#111
if you have ever lived in the kind of neighborhood where armed robbery, armed burglary, and
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#119
assuming they had a clear choice of where to shoot (probably not since the kid was standing
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#117
yes, well, it also seems clear to you that a kid might jump a spiked fence at 2 am in a high crime
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#447
you're obviously heavily invested in the straw man franchise, since i explicitly said 'doesn't
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#450
I alerted on that guy so many times and they always came back split. It infuriated me all the time.
hrmjustin
Aug 2013
#542
I am on MIrt so send me a PM if you see him or others that seem like a troll.
hrmjustin
Aug 2013
#550
He was safe in the house. He could have shouted through the window that he had a gun
pnwmom
Jul 2013
#305
There you go, a good excuse to shoot unarmed teen in head over a bit of property.
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#142
about 1/4 of the doors & windows in that neighborhood have bars over them; it's apparently
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#36
I agree. The guy in TX was not even on his own property. There is something about this that's off.
freshwest
Jul 2013
#54
Why shoot at the heart or the head? Why not lower the gun and shoot at the legs? It will stop him.
SunSeeker
Jul 2013
#37
I posed this question in regard to Trayvon being shot through the heart.
No Vested Interest
Jul 2013
#48
he couldn't have 'run away'. the yard is too small to run anywhere, and to get out you have
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#133
Apparently the visibility was good enough to hit the kid in the head with one shot. nt
SunSeeker
Jul 2013
#214
I have no idea whether he aimed for the head or not, and neither do you. What I know is it's a
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#338
There is no doubt the kid was trespassing. But trespassing does not warrant the death penalty. nt
SunSeeker
Jul 2013
#379
You don't fire a warning shot to win an argument. That's reckless endangerment at minimum.
X_Digger
Jul 2013
#478
I'm guessing, but: the neighborhood is apparently kind of high crime to start with & there's
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#58
Exactly, probably gave the shooter a gun at age 7, and took him to range to practice shooting
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#242
I had decent parents, but I remember sneaking out in the middle of the night
penultimate
Jul 2013
#198
Another 'shoot first' nut. He's in deep doodoo. There is no justification for shooting
Flatulo
Jul 2013
#74
this guy didn't have an upstairs bedroom. those houses are tiny, shotgun type houses. another
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#118
i dunno. i just don't think this is anything like the trayvon martin case, however hard the
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#121
you're confused, as i am not arguing there was a reason to shoot. i *am* arguing there was
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#129
you can argue the legalities of it all you like. i'm saying, when you are in that kind of environ-
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#309
So you support shooting a kid riding a bicycle in the head over easily replaceable property?
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#153
No, I am saying they were bicycling (so young kids) and one got off and jumped over a fence.
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#175
Nope, my posts are simply saying these are young folks who ride bikes, not hardened criminals.
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#190
Thanks, HolyMoley, I'm sure folks in your favorite group -- the gungeon -- will agree with you.
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#267
I've never been to the gungeon. I live in a small, 90% white town with a high crime rate, mostly
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#340
i don't think you understand the situation. the kid was in the 'yard' a few feet from the back
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#336
I don't compare it to Trayvon's murder. In this case, the bicycling kid was shot at 30 feet.
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#172
Bicycle proves to me he was not a hardened criminal. But, you guys will back the shooter
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#196
She might be ignored, unless of course she's black/brown. Then the swat team would be summoned.
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#350
A kid outside, can take anything they want -- and unlike you, I would not even think of shooting
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#194
We'll find out when facts are released. Until then, I'm not going on auto support for shooter.
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#291
30 feet. Now that's not a "big" threat, when the bicycling kid is unarmed, and you are.
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#164
Hopefully, NO law enforcement will not release man who shot kid at 30 feet over replaceabl property.
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#174
The usual suspect sources, I'm sure free republic, stormfront, etc., are burning up the internet
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#215
Give me a break, you support shooting an unarmed kid at 30 feet over something left outside in
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#220
MORE PROOF that DU has been overun by fudr!! Kill someone over property!?!! REALLY?!
uponit7771
Jul 2013
#495
Link and quote the kid being the "look out" just because they're black doesn't mean they were trying
uponit7771
Jul 2013
#494
He road the bike to the house, that shows the kid is not some hardened criminal to be shot
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#182
We've yet to find if the shooter was an angle either. I know to gun cultists he is, but . . . . . .
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#249
Apparently, our shooter wasn't in imminent danger, or under attack. So much for critical thinkin.
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#248
Says the man with a reference to guns in his user name on DU. Haven't seen you around to
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#212
Clearly the kid was up to no good, but shooting him at 30 feet when he is not a hardened
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#231
If they are at 30 feet, unarmed, a kid, poking around outside, etc., they aren't acting like a home
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#301
Article: Law experts say trespassing under Louisiana code does not justify excessive force.
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#264
Fail = another case were a black kid gets killed for little or nothing and racist support the killer
uponit7771
Jul 2013
#500
Why did he shoot him in the head? He could have easily shot him in the leg so he couldn't
southernyankeebelle
Jul 2013
#210
guess I watch way to much tv. After all killing for the sake of a car or like the wild west
southernyankeebelle
Jul 2013
#351
Well maybe this guy shouldn't have a gun. I mean if you shoot a guy for standing by your
southernyankeebelle
Jul 2013
#353
There are a lot of arteries in the leg. A shot that hits the femoral artery can result ...
spin
Jul 2013
#303
Yes I agree with you totally. This business of standing your ground isn't working for
southernyankeebelle
Jul 2013
#355
Apparently got him in the head at 30 feet. There goes lighting and threatened justification.
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#252
Its going to keep happening over and over. Stand your ground laws are a legal license to kill
workinclasszero
Jul 2013
#348
According to his uncle, he was involved in several burglerys, and got caught up in the wrong crowd.
Travis_0004
Jul 2013
#453
Just curious, do cities have curfews anymore? When I grew up, there was a 10 p.m. curfew under a
Common Sense Party
Jul 2013
#403
The information is limited, but it sounds like attempted Murder 2 to me.
GreenStormCloud
Jul 2013
#407
+1, not only that but there were witness's in this case, the guy was 30 feet away from the kid & vid
uponit7771
Jul 2013
#503
Mostly, they are objecting to whitewashing the teen as "just cutting across the yard".
GreenStormCloud
Jul 2013
#515
normally i would agree, but in this case there are reasons the homeowner might not have
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#525
Yeap, the same people who defended the racist Zimmerman are defending this guy too
uponit7771
Jul 2013
#504
just for the record: the issue is whether the homeowner *believed* the kid posed a threat.
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#521
he didn't 'run' into the yard. he climbed over a chest high iron spiked fence. and since the
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#523
"Cul-de-sac: is an expression of French origin also used in Catalan and Occitan referring to a dead
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#533
The racist who supported Z the first time is supporting this guy. He was 30 feet away and witness's
uponit7771
Jul 2013
#501
what 'witnesses'? so far as i have heard, there were no witnesses except possibly the kid's
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#520
It looks to me like YOU are the only one"connecting it to the Trayvon Martin case." n/t
oneshooter
Jul 2013
#529