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Tue Jul 23, 2013, 05:04 AM Jul 2013

Chris Hedges "We have shifted, , from a democratic state to a species of corporate totalitarianism. [View all]

Chris Hedges "We have shifted, I think, from a democratic state to a species of corporate totalitarianism."


JAY: Millions of people unemployed, millions of people have lost their houses, and for a long time the left was saying the crash is coming, the crash is coming, the people will rise up. Well, the crash came, and some people rose up, but not in the kind of critical numbers that would have shaken or, as in the previous episode you said, terrified the elites. Why?
HEDGES: Because the traditional liberal elite divorced itself from the issue of justice to embrace for the last few decades issues such as gender equality, multiculturalism, identity politics, all of which I support. But while they busied themselves with these activities, the working class was being destroyed through NAFTA and the outsourcing of jobs, the stagnation, in essence reduction of the minimum wage.
The Democratic Party used to watch out for the interests of labor and even for the poor. But that all changed under Bill Clinton. Although Clinton, like Obama, continues to speak in that feel-your-pain language of traditional liberalism, they've completely betrayed the very people that they purport to represent and defend.


HEDGES: The forces arrayed against us, the security and surveillance state knows the moment anything is going to be organized. They've essentially shut down all public space for any kind of serious dissent because they don't want to see a resurrection of the Occupy movement. We are the most surveilled, monitored, eavesdropped, controlled, watched population in human history, and I speak as somebody who covered the Stasi state in East Germany. We are kept in a state of perpetual fear that we could lose our jobs [incompr.] so many people in this country now are living at subsistence level. To lose their job is catastrophic. We are seeing the corporate state dismantle programs that once provided benefits like unemployment payments or social programs to the poor, to the elderly, to students, to make us even more frightened and more easily manipulated. I mean, there's a kind of awful logic to what they're doing. And, you know, it is--those forms of repression are quite effective. We have shifted, I think, from a democratic state to a species of corporate totalitarianism.


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Hedges routinely blames just about everything on the "liberal elite" cali Jul 2013 #1
I Agree With Hedges - Many Identity Politic Issues Are Distractions From Economic Fairness cantbeserious Jul 2013 #2
Totally agree with that Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #4
that's so simplistic. cali Jul 2013 #5
Maybe he expects nothing of the Republicans, of the "Tea Party". MNBrewer Jul 2013 #10
Clearly! Why comment on the party of crazy, the left is being pushed right, fix that! Civilization2 Jul 2013 #13
I totally agree. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #65
Yep....It's divide and conquer... midnight Jul 2013 #12
I'm from the working class/working poor and I agree with Hedges, too deutsey Jul 2013 #15
Well Said - Thank You cantbeserious Jul 2013 #16
Yep, exactly. The issues that unite the working class have a lot of common ground, but Nay Jul 2013 #32
Rare among the working class? Fawke Em Jul 2013 #38
I said among those I know deutsey Jul 2013 #39
In fact, because I live in a more "purple" part of a red county/red section of a blue state deutsey Jul 2013 #42
American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #3
not compared to his fixation on liberal elites. not even close. cali Jul 2013 #8
DUer Davis X Machina said it best I think Fumesucker Jul 2013 #6
Jesus, ain't that the truth. It's sad. Nay Jul 2013 #33
I think he is coming from the view...... Bonhomme Richard Jul 2013 #9
My view as well. Calling out Republican conservatives to liberals, is preaching to the choir. canoeist52 Jul 2013 #11
Yes, he picks on liberals. The reason, to me, is..... Bonhomme Richard Jul 2013 #30
He's self-critical of the socialist left because he expects better. joshcryer Jul 2013 #14
He's a socialist like me which Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #22
Looks like he has gored your sacred cow. His critique of the left is correct and then some,. Civilization2 Jul 2013 #19
The word "liberal" has to be one of the most maligned and mis-used HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #21
I'll have to give your assertion that he's letting republicans off the hook some thought. matthews Jul 2013 #26
"it sure seems us plebs are on our own" deutsey Jul 2013 #34
I have always wondered this myself, mostly in the context of "where are the wealthy Dems Nay Jul 2013 #36
I agree. nt matthews Jul 2013 #43
Senator Schumer? Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #40
But is he a Liberal 'elite'? Does he have the money/influence to do what matthews Jul 2013 #45
He agrees with the right Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #59
Hedges not only gives you a clue as to the identities of the liberal elite, Vinnie From Indy Jul 2013 #31
Which is why I think a law should be passed that would make it a matthews Jul 2013 #46
He never mentions Republicans or Cock Bros.? Total fucking garbage. Skeeter Barnes Jul 2013 #35
It's not the liberal elite. It's liberals. rrneck Jul 2013 #41
Hedges has written plenty about Republicans. If you were reading him during the Bush years. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #47
Aw, Cali. You don't know who he means by the Liberal Elite? bvar22 Jul 2013 #63
Du rec. Nt xchrom Jul 2013 #7
One need only work for a large national or even international corporation to know Cleita Jul 2013 #17
+100 Fuddnik Jul 2013 #18
Your last paragraph . . . Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #20
I agree. Cleita Jul 2013 #25
An example of a cooperative that shows promise: Dragonfli Jul 2013 #24
Great idea. I must have missed the original post.nt Cleita Jul 2013 #27
Great post. woo me with science Jul 2013 #49
My last job was like that. Cleita Jul 2013 #50
^^^ this PowerToThePeople Jul 2013 #57
Spot on. Reaganites everywhere. MrSlayer Jul 2013 #23
k&r Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #28
Um...When was America a democratic state? Yavin4 Jul 2013 #29
Never knew Hedges to mince words. Fawke Em Jul 2013 #37
Yes. Let's bold and repost that last paragraph. woo me with science Jul 2013 #44
Why do intelligent writers feel the need to destroy their credibility with unleashed hyperbole. grantcart Jul 2013 #48
Where do the corporations get their money? treestar Jul 2013 #51
All that stands between you and a totalitarian state is the Democratic Party.. kentuck Jul 2013 #52
It hasn't been asleep but it has been taken over by the former DLCers, Cleita Jul 2013 #58
Kick woo me with science Jul 2013 #53
so gender equality doesn't count as justice? arely staircase Jul 2013 #54
Today is my birthday Ichingcarpenter Jul 2013 #55
Happy Birthday! and thanks for all of your enlightening posts through the years. adirondacker Jul 2013 #60
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author Lifelong Protester Jul 2013 #61
Chomsky's work at its best differed from what Hedges is doing in a very important respect: struggle4progress Jul 2013 #62
Kick woo me with science Jul 2013 #64
In other words - a Fascist State. n/t truedelphi Jul 2013 #66
K&R liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #67
K&R idwiyo Jul 2013 #68
Kicked and Recommended Enthusiast Jul 2013 #69
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