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In reply to the discussion: How many people have actually considered that Zimmerman is not guilty? [View all]nyquil_man
(1,443 posts)228. You said it yourself, Lurks.
"if you intentionally shoot someone in the leg or arm or some other 'non vital' area and you can not prove reasonable fear of death or grave bodily harm you will go to jail for attempted murder."
Zimmerman's WHOLE DEFENSE rests on the notion that he fired because he was in fear for his life. Are you claiming that Zimmerman could not prove that he was in fear of death or grave bodily harm?
But go and deny that you meant that. Just like you deny that you really meant it when you said that Zimmerman tried to talk to Martin.
My god. Not only do you not know what Zimmerman has said, you don't even know what YOU have said.
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How many people have actually considered that Zimmerman is not guilty? [View all]
NaturalHigh
Jul 2013
OP
self defense apparently only applies to paranoid gun-humping racists, Hugabear
Skittles
Jul 2013
#45
I considered it until I heard that Zimmerman was safe inside his 2 ton steel vehicle, with locking
GoneFishin
Jul 2013
#274
he's not naturally high, he's huffing paint thinner to be posting that shit. nt
dionysus
Jul 2013
#301
they have to be REASONABLY afraid of grievous bodily harm or death.... with a CREDIBLE
bettyellen
Jul 2013
#199
The evidence does not prove that Zimmrman was getting beaten to death. Rather an impossibity.
lumpy
Jul 2013
#204
If George Zimmerman was a fit black guy who stalked a smaller white teenager and shot
OregonBlue
Jul 2013
#115
Are you certain that Z didn't already have that gun out for Martin to see?
Duer 157099
Jul 2013
#135
"Read more about Martin's background"? As if that somehow made killing him more justifiable?
nomorenomore08
Jul 2013
#300
I'm still waiting for the guy to explain what he meant. Somehow I don't think he will.
nomorenomore08
Jul 2013
#319
I think he just realized just why looking into Trayvon's background made his murder acceptable.
EOTE
Jul 2013
#321
Trayvon wasn't Skittles, he was just carrying them. Scratches and a bump. I could have killed the
bettyellen
Jul 2013
#200
But you also imply that I think those ridiculous boo-boos are sufficient reason for
tblue37
Jul 2013
#275
oh crap- I am so sorry- I meant "them" - yeah, I can see how messed up that was....
bettyellen
Jul 2013
#279
It just astonishes me how quick people are to believe Zim's every word.
nomorenomore08
Jul 2013
#205
The point is that Zim's injuries were not consistent with his head being "bashed on the concrete."
nomorenomore08
Jul 2013
#189
Do child safety instructors in your town teach kids to NOT fight when an adult stranger
blm
Jul 2013
#132
I think the point being made is that Zimmerman could have used non-lethal force
nyquil_man
Jul 2013
#149
Ah, but I thought Zimmerman's argument was that he DID fear grave bodily harm or death?
nyquil_man
Jul 2013
#215
You find me the law that allows intentional wounding with a deadly weapon n/t
Lurks Often
Jul 2013
#224
I'm talking about the Zimmerman case. You're off on another of your ill-informed fantasies.
nyquil_man
Jul 2013
#243
What part of shooting someone in the chest is illegal is unclear to you? nt
nyquil_man
Jul 2013
#251
It is illegal if a jury finds the claim of self defense not justified by the evidence
Lurks Often
Jul 2013
#252
So then all any murderer would need to do is give themselves a couple scratches...
Marrah_G
Jul 2013
#191
I knew someone who later admitted to hitting her face with her car door to win a DV claim. nt
TheBlackAdder
Jul 2013
#170
I won't say he is innocent, but if I was on the Jury, I would find him not guilty.
Travis_0004
Jul 2013
#2
if the jury doesn't believe his story beyond a reasonable doubt, the prosecution makes a great deal
Voice for Peace
Jul 2013
#297
I said so months ago and got kicked off the board for it. Hush now don' t say a word. nt
Duckwraps
Jul 2013
#63
So who are you a sockpuppet of? You DO know that if you get kicked off you are
kestrel91316
Jul 2013
#95
By Florida law? Very possibly not guilty. But from a moral standpoint? Guilty.
Lizzie Poppet
Jul 2013
#16
I would have considered it - if he had come up with a better story that wasn't full of holes. (nt)
Nine
Jul 2013
#19
had he not gotten out of his truck NOTHING would be happening. He murdered that boy
sad-cafe
Jul 2013
#24
People are amazing. They act as though those little scratches, which are not even worth putting a
tblue37
Jul 2013
#47
I remember you. You claimed to be an expert on high altitude rescue at one point a
JanMichael
Jul 2013
#51
So what? Even if Martin was striking Zimmerman, it was MARTIN that every right to defend himself.
npk
Jul 2013
#69
tm wasn't stalking gz. imo, if tm did, in fact, attack gz, he acted in self defense.
ellenfl
Jul 2013
#41
well.. I urge you to watch the prosecution closing(s) if you can make the time.
Voice for Peace
Jul 2013
#112
In principle - all accused have to be presumed Innocent with the burden on the prosecution to prove
Douglas Carpenter
Jul 2013
#96
"Oooops." Is that really enough? A paranoid maniac follows you, provoking a confrontation
ecstatic
Jul 2013
#113
I don't think the prosecutor will be able to prove the charges against him.
lumberjack_jeff
Jul 2013
#122
There is a strong manslaughter case. Read today's Miami Herald editorial by the lawyer.
RBInMaine
Jul 2013
#166
Sorry, no excuse for shooting that unarmed kid. Too bad he thought he was covered under laws.
Hoyt
Jul 2013
#128
If he's not guilty, then Florida should get ready for a lot fewer tourists.
displacedtexan
Jul 2013
#131
So I take it that you believe the story of Zimmerman... Someone who's a proven liar
MrScorpio
Jul 2013
#137
He wanted to hold Trayvon down for the Police. When Trayvon resisted, Zimmerman shot him.
MjolnirTime
Jul 2013
#165
The injuries that were so minor that the Medical Examiner said all they required was a bandaid?
yardwork
Jul 2013
#184
Yes, I have given him the benefit of the doubt. The more I have followed the trial the more I"m
lumpy
Jul 2013
#192
Very briefly, perhaps. But the evidence against him is fairly overwhelming, from my vantage point.
nomorenomore08
Jul 2013
#203
"Why do so many people not care about the circumstances...?" Because not all agree with YOU?!
WinkyDink
Jul 2013
#218
You are right that he was convicted long ago by many. When there's no need.
Honeycombe8
Jul 2013
#241
We get it, according to you, black people have no right to self defense.
Humanist_Activist
Jul 2013
#302
If Trayvon Martin had jumped Zimmerman's vehicle with Zimmerman in it, and Trayvon had a gun
anobserver2
Jul 2013
#308
What part of "Zimmerman started it" don't you understand? The altercation was entirely due to him.
nomorenomore08
Jul 2013
#320