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43. Yes, it's all for the purpose of Corporate Persons who will use it without the oversight

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 12:20 PM

Jul 2013

Congress would have if they had not transferred their duties to Private Corporations like Booz Allen.

Think of the multiple, and profitable purposes this data mining can be used for. As you pointed out, to control the people, and the occasional Whistle Blower and courageous Public Official who might foolishly decide to speak out. And the money, first from the funding they get from their puppets in Congress under the pretext that it 'will catch terrorists'.

Then they SELL the info to other Private Corps, like HB Gary eg, who were proposing a smear campaign against Glenn Greenwald, to 'persuade him' to stop talking about The Chamber of Commerce etc. Looks like someone got that contract.

I think the whole scandal they are so desperate to hide is that none of this was ever about our security or about terrorists, it was to USE the fear mongering to sell the data and you can imagine, as Ron Wyden said, how angry the people will be when they find out the massive scam they have been subjected to.

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Here's What Happens When Someone Wants To Use YOUR "PUBLIC" INFO To INTIMIDATE YOU. [View all] Segami Jul 2013 OP

K&R Someone will be here shortly to explain how it's all your (generic) fault because idwiyo Jul 2013 #1

Make it so...... Segami Jul 2013 #3

... idwiyo Jul 2013 #4

NSAsses BehindTheCurtain76 Jul 2013 #108

I can only imagine what kind of dirt NSA has on politicians in France, Italy, Portugal, and Spain to idwiyo Jul 2013 #111

Thank You BehindTheCurtain76 Jul 2013 #117

And that you don't own your own data! sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #24

Bullies wouldnt be effective w/o their enablers. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #29

yup - never saw any bully in school markiv Jul 2013 #31

Or the open eyes of their authoritarian little buddies. You can see it happen here in DU. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #33

The term "Vichy" comes to mind. nt awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #76

Plenty of NSA water carriers here on DU Katashi_itto Jul 2013 #121

They hate anything that upsets their status quo. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #122

I beleive it all starts with "the haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy" idwiyo Jul 2013 #48

What we have here is an infestation of Quislings. Divernan Jul 2013 #83

Divernan Diclotican Jul 2013 #96

I'll be satisfied if these greedy bankers & war-mongering profiteers end up in prison! Divernan Jul 2013 #97

Divernan Diclotican Jul 2013 #101

I always wondered where that word came from. Thank you for a very imformative post. sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #112

here's what i don'y get about that: the public paid for the public r&d that created the digital HiPointDem Jul 2013 #103

K & R ...the usual nonsense ...it's the law ...right or wrong. L0oniX Jul 2013 #27

Then let's petition the government (like the First Amendment says we can) JDPriestly Jul 2013 #47

You "also" can't vote Goldman Sachs out of office. Petition? What's that??? L0oniX Jul 2013 #50

Under the First Amendment to our Constitution, we have the guaranteed right to petition the governme JDPriestly Jul 2013 #90

Good luck with that unless you are Goldman Sachs and what GS represents. L0oniX Jul 2013 #92

Hear Hear, JD! ReRe Jul 2013 #104

That would be wonderful. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #105

Ha! I can't believe that. ReRe Jul 2013 #106

Very well said. nt Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2013 #91

Yeah, that and how one should martyr themselves and go to prison because that's what Real Patriot idwiyo Jul 2013 #102

We need laws and regulations that prohibit such things abelenkpe Jul 2013 #2

If we did, they'd only be used when Anonymous doxed people starroute Jul 2013 #8

So we can't rely on abelenkpe Jul 2013 #12

Speaking of Anonymous... moondust Jul 2013 #74

Will we ever be able to get it without a bloody fight? rainy Jul 2013 #35

Holy shit. Pale Blue Dot Jul 2013 #5

+1000 very scary abelenkpe Jul 2013 #13

Screen shot with mug shots think Jul 2013 #18

Now appearing on mugshots.com and forever indexed by Google... L0oniX Jul 2013 #20

Is there a family plan? think Jul 2013 #25

Well ...there is a "Hottie" section. L0oniX Jul 2013 #28

Is there a way someone could start a website using those exact same photos to sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #32

Apalled and dismayed. lark Jul 2013 #42

Well, thank you for your support. aquart Jul 2013 #120

Love this idea! reusrename Jul 2013 #75

If you can't stop them, then beat them at their own game, and we get to use their sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #113

Thanks for this. The photos were taken down. It's chilling to see. mahina Jul 2013 #63

They are still up on the site. It is revolving picture number 2 I think think Jul 2013 #65

There's a GAME associated with those shots??? October Jul 2013 #51

Sick? Enthusiast Jul 2013 #68

Ermmmm.... Zombie Nazis? TalkingDog Jul 2013 #71

Chilling. Giving these people power would be like going back to the fourteenth century. lastlib Jul 2013 #57

K&R. Thanks. Keep getting that info out there. n/t truth2power Jul 2013 #6

THIS is the real reason behind doing all this surveillance. AllyCat Jul 2013 #7

Let's face it. To the government and the 1%, these are the terrorists. nt tsuki Jul 2013 #21

The government did not do this. A right wing private individual did this. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #54

And yet, when government aids and abets that right-wing individual..... lastlib Jul 2013 #59

How did the government "aid and abet" Pope with his website? nt SunSeeker Jul 2013 #62

obviously it gave him the mugshots lastlib Jul 2013 #64

That is all public info available as required by open government laws the people demanded. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #69

Whoa, a voice of reason on this thread. Blanks Jul 2013 #73

Government agency (NSA) set up to make this possible for private individuals AllyCat Jul 2013 #79

No, the NSA has nothing to do with this. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #80

Yes. And now that all that info is sitting in government or contracted-out-private company databanks AllyCat Jul 2013 #81

Arrest records are not held by "contracted-out-private company databanks." SunSeeker Jul 2013 #85

Everyone has their price. Why collect the data? AllyCat Jul 2013 #86

The local authorities are required by law to maintain arrest records. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #87

So all these people arrested should have their OTHER personal information available to the highest AllyCat Jul 2013 #107

Wow. I'm not defending anyone. I'm just saying Pope is to blame. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #109

NC's Budget Director did this; he is a Govt Official w/access to whatever he likes - collaboration Melinda Jul 2013 #100

None of those links say NC's budget director did this. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #110

Oh. for heavens sake, you couldn't be bothered to READ the links!! Melinda Jul 2013 #114

So we're in agreement that Pope did this. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #115

I don't know if he accessed State held info or not, but I do know that Bossism is alive & well in NC Melinda Jul 2013 #116

you are so right! It will be used against the only ones who can rainy Jul 2013 #38

Yes, it's all for the purpose of Corporate Persons who will use it without the oversight sabrina 1 Jul 2013 #43

See? They are creating jobs...jobs watching people who don't need watching. AllyCat Jul 2013 #45

Democrats only control the Senate. The repukes control the House of Representatives. kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #53

Two houses = White HOUSE and Senate AllyCat Jul 2013 #78

This has nothing to do with NSA surveillance. There is no "Democratic control of two houses." SunSeeker Jul 2013 #58

Two houses = White HOUSE and Senate AllyCat Jul 2013 #77

I moved to NC a couple of years ago - it is indeed a cesspool of reaction and hate. byeya Jul 2013 #9

We've been here since 2000. Remember, NC went for Obama in 2008 mnhtnbb Jul 2013 #14

I'm glad you still have that in you SaveAmerica Jul 2013 #46

What a grotesque lie marions ghost Jul 2013 #56

Hyperbole, bigotry and generalization. I'm from a very red county in NC. TalkingDog Jul 2013 #72

LOL snooper2 Jul 2013 #10

k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Jul 2013 #11

Super hard to send e-mails to the Soviet Union these days. AtheistCrusader Jul 2013 #15

an inevitable devolution of the mugshot extortion sites markiv Jul 2013 #16

I'm actually kind of glad this happened so soon markiv Jul 2013 #19

It wouldn't even have to be something you'd actually done. JoeyT Jul 2013 #17

police logs and internet searches. bunnies Jul 2013 #22

salary? RILib Jul 2013 #23

i didnt look through all of them, but i only saw public employee's salary listed nt markiv Jul 2013 #30

And some wanted to reveal concealed-carry permit holders. Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #26

We are not allowed to know about that. RC Jul 2013 #40

As well it should be. I remember when in Texas one Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #123

Stay on this story. Thanks for posting. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2013 #34

about 2 years ago there was a facebook hater who did some research on me via linked in and public dembotoz Jul 2013 #36

Can you briefly, tell us what you did to MsPithy Jul 2013 #41

NC Budget Director has the time to bully every protestor. Art Pope= hateful, anti-usa. Sunlei Jul 2013 #37

Here's how to reach Art Pope rainy Jul 2013 #39

Thank you, Segami. Privacy is important in maintaining personal and collective liberty. nt Zorra Jul 2013 #44

Last week, I received an email and text about a credit card purchase suffragette Jul 2013 #49

K & R AzDar Jul 2013 #52

Of course. K and R n/t Smarmie Doofus Jul 2013 #55

Now with the new Roberts Voting Resolution, predetermined person can be pulled DhhD Jul 2013 #60

Much worse can happen. Ask Edward Teller's family. SunSeeker Jul 2013 #61

OK. Well please let it be known that if you call them to complain they will call you back. WCLinolVir Jul 2013 #66

Thanks for posting. K&R Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2013 #67

It's pretty simple SnakeEyes Jul 2013 #70

Art Pope, fast facts Duppers Jul 2013 #82

Good Read! Recommend KoKo Jul 2013 #84

If the Civitas site sulphurdunn Jul 2013 #88

big kr. i have seen similar things happen in employment situations. very dangerous stuff & HiPointDem Jul 2013 #89

Exactly. blackspade Jul 2013 #93

knr... this is what can be done already with resources .. It is absurd to imagine that a vastly Douglas Carpenter Jul 2013 #94

So sue Civitas, get the ACLU to sue , Progressive dog Jul 2013 #95

Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious Jul 2013 #98

This is a story about the abuses of a republican controlled state house... Blanks Jul 2013 #99

K&R liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #118

Please start thinking intaglio Jul 2013 #119

You may wish to check my #123. It's already been done. Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #124

Is it possible for us all to crash Ilsa Jul 2013 #125