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In reply to the discussion: I'll never forget the look in their eyes, they were terrified of me... [View all]AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)I have seen in multiple instances that an aggressor has the tables turned, and starts losing the fight, will 'turtle up' and start screaming for help.
Some people are billy badass when they start a fight, but as soon as they start to lose, it's screaming, crying, pleading, on the ground, trying to get away.
I don't know that this is what happened here. But it is within a range of possibilities. Personally, I believe the screaming was probably the victim, Travyon Martin. But I wasn't there and don't know that for sure. I can also envision a scenario in which Zimmerman stalked him, physically accosted him, Mr. Martin fought back, and was winning (And Z unable to deploy his firearm), at which point Z broke loose or Martin relented, and Z shot him in fear. (Which of course, would not constitute self-defense) Also possible BOTH parties in the fight reasonably though they were losing.
Many possibilities. Most of them point to Z as the aggressor, and Mr. Martin as the victim. I have to construct very strange hypotheticals to reverse the positions. But I would not consider it impossible that the screams were Zimmerman, and if they are, that doesn't automatically imply Zimmerman was the victim.