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58. i'm just saying it's a very uphill legal battle
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 08:32 AM
Feb 2012

she volunteered a statement that reached the attention of the nation, the white house, and limpballs. i'm not sure that doesn't make her a celebrity, albeit a minor one.

there are other challenges, too. for instance, we don't have the exact text of what was said, so it could easily be the case that no actual falsehood was told. "she's not a real person" would be a falsehood, but "i suspect she's not a real person" would not.

it's also very difficult to prove damages -- did she suffer a drop in business? was it actually just seasonal? without producing actual people who stopped patronizing her stores because of what rush said (and how do you find them?) this may be hard to prove -- you also have to show that the free notoriety didn't compensate for it.

and then it's hard to prove that the loss of business was related to the LIES that rush said, as opposed to anything else that rush said, or as opposed to independent conclusions -- people might not have liked her original statement, or agreed with rush on the truthful things he said, and ignored the lies.


EVEN IF she's not a celebrity for purposes of a legal challenge, and even though she would only have to demonstrate her case to a preponderance of the evidence, she's still got a tough battle.


she's better off working the fame and anti-rush angle to replace any lost customers and forgetting about a legal challenge, unless she actually goes out of business and has nothing better to do with her time and money.



once again, NO sympathies for what rush did here, and lots of sympathy for his victims. i'm just happen to be very aware of how
taxing and expensive the actual legal process is, especially against entities who can afford massive legal teams.

I work with her significant other. Phlem Feb 2012 #1
If her business suffers, I hope she can prove it was a result of Rush's lies. nanabugg Feb 2012 #52
Rush lied over and over creeksneakers2 Feb 2012 #2
i'm self employed, i have to pay it all. spanone Feb 2012 #4
That's What I Was Going To Say ProfessorGAC Feb 2012 #39
Absolutely -- self employed pay both parts. n/t pnwmom Feb 2012 #46
Yes catrose Feb 2012 #49
limballs is not only an ignorant, greedy blowhard newspeak Feb 2012 #30
My father was self-employed and HAD to pay for his SS. nt Lost-in-FL Feb 2012 #35
Sue his ass for libel.. Indianademocrat91 Feb 2012 #3
You forgot to call him a pedophile, too! nt valerief Feb 2012 #5
Did you forget your Phlem Feb 2012 #6
Limbaugh vacations in a region known for catering to foreign males who crave young boys.nt ieoeja Feb 2012 #21
uggh Phlem Feb 2012 #33
he was also there to score more oxy. nt Javaman Feb 2012 #38
With chervilant Feb 2012 #43
Totally serious. nt valerief Feb 2012 #45
I agree, she should sue him. sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #42
Oh, c'mon. She a WOMAN. Of course she's not a real person. kestrel91316 Feb 2012 #7
You are much mistaken. JNelson6563 Feb 2012 #16
Only white men who own property. tclambert Feb 2012 #17
And THAT, folks, is how the GOP wants to take America BACK. Zalatix Feb 2012 #50
She needs to sue his ass to kingdom come for kestrel91316 Feb 2012 #8
He has the facts wrong stopwastingmymoney Feb 2012 #9
I'm an accountant and am glad you caught that... WCGreen Feb 2012 #12
Getting the facts wrong is what he does. n/t lumberjack_jeff Feb 2012 #20
He does not have his facts wrong. tsuki Feb 2012 #22
facts? newspeak Feb 2012 #31
and here's a link to show you are right spooky3 Feb 2012 #34
Rush? Apologize for a rude comment? Initech Feb 2012 #10
K&R jsmirman Feb 2012 #11
K&R BumRushDaShow Feb 2012 #13
Self Employment Tax IS Social Security.. Bandit Feb 2012 #14
Did everyone see *this* DU thread? Raine1967 Feb 2012 #15
Are you sure Rush Limbaugh is a real person? tclambert Feb 2012 #18
Limbaugh is a highly paid professional propagandist/LIAR. Mimosa Feb 2012 #19
All of my best to you Holly. K&R myrna minx Feb 2012 #23
Rush Limbaugh is not a real person but he plays one on the radio. yellowcanine Feb 2012 #24
K&R raouldukelives Feb 2012 #25
Anything that helps my employees get by, helps me. byronius Feb 2012 #26
Thanks everyone! oldtime dfl_er Feb 2012 #27
oh and thank you oldtime dfl_er Feb 2012 #28
Holly, barbtries Feb 2012 #29
Question for Holly Great Caesars Ghost Feb 2012 #36
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2012 #32
Slander suit? Javaman Feb 2012 #37
DU Lawyers! ProfessorGAC Feb 2012 #40
I remember the elements of libel... CoffeeCat Feb 2012 #53
My dear, what he did is called "Slander" SemperEadem Feb 2012 #41
i don't think that's correct. unblock Feb 2012 #44
Actually....scarebaby would only have to prove "falsity" CoffeeCat Feb 2012 #54
my concern is that in this respect i think she did thrust herself into the spotlight unblock Feb 2012 #56
I was not talking about a public forum SemperEadem Feb 2012 #57
i'm just saying it's a very uphill legal battle unblock Feb 2012 #58
that has not been established SemperEadem Feb 2012 #59
what about all the other challenges to building a successful case? unblock Feb 2012 #60
so because it's "challenging" SemperEadem Feb 2012 #62
who said dismissed? unblock Feb 2012 #63
Kick! sarcasmo Feb 2012 #47
K&R Bozita Feb 2012 #48
k&r nt steve2470 Feb 2012 #51
Rash is not an entertainer The Wizard Feb 2012 #55
Chicken Hawks are too weak to apologize Kingofalldems Feb 2012 #61
As an accountant with payroll accounts I can tell you self-employed people do get the deduction... WCGreen Feb 2012 #64
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