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quakerboy

(13,921 posts)
73. I think you'd be hard pressed to prove even that
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 02:27 AM
Feb 2012

My father tells me stories of how, as kids, they used to get liquid mercury and rub it over pennies to make them shiny like dimes.

With that in mind, I find it hard to believe that PPM in water, much less the mercury that isn't even in vaccines anymore is causing a new autism epidemic. If it were mercury, I would expect the rates to have gone down.

Of course, I may be prejudiced because every person I have known in real life who worried about mercury was decidedly anti-scientific and self pitying, determined to blame every one of life's woes no matter how large or small, on someone else.

I bet this get's the Anti-vaxxers in a tizzy MicaelS Feb 2012 #1
Please broaden your reading. proverbialwisdom Feb 2012 #25
So when my kid gets sick ceile Feb 2012 #26
Fear mongering. 'Tho there will be cognitive dissonance, here's a better frame for asking questions. proverbialwisdom Feb 2012 #30
Age of Austism is your source? ceile Feb 2012 #34
Proudly. Observe the meticulous investigative journalism on display here, including video. proverbialwisdom Feb 2012 #60
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you..." Then? proverbialwisdom May 2012 #110
MUST SEE: Full Wakefield lecture plus Q&A (1:43:10) @ Brandeis University introduced by Jake Crosby. proverbialwisdom May 2012 #122
Neutral POV here, why are you just outright dismissing ageofautism? Zalatix Feb 2012 #71
They are starting from the POV that autism is caused by vaccines or other 'bad things' jeff47 Feb 2012 #88
Ah hah, much thanks for the info. Zalatix Feb 2012 #94
The vaccine doesn't get approved if that 'gamble' isn't proven to be a good bet. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2012 #98
They, they, they? Actually, it could be any of us. For you, some HEARTBREAKING ESSENTIAL READING. proverbialwisdom Feb 2012 #96
Volume of material is not the same as 'correct' material. jeff47 Feb 2012 #99
Explosive CNN interview with former CDC Chief Gerberding, 48 relevant peer-reviewed journal article proverbialwisdom Feb 2012 #101
Age of Autism = woo woo Taverner Feb 2012 #44
Btw, this post is why we call anti-vax people idiots. jeff47 Feb 2012 #51
There is no "anti anti-vaccine movement." There are those that accept real science cleanhippie Feb 2012 #37
don't know where they got their facts mzteris Feb 2012 #48
Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #38
I'm not concerned for myself XemaSab Feb 2012 #40
Dude, save it. I am totally 100% anti-vax yup its me Feb 2012 #42
Clearly you are. You're also totally, completely wrong. TheWraith Feb 2012 #43
Technically, the poster is correct Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #58
Doesn't help when the 'pros' keep adding more and more things to "Autism" jeff47 Feb 2012 #59
Huh??!?!?!?!?!?! "Most kids today show signs of autism spectrum" Taverner Feb 2012 #45
Actually, vaccines for children in the US have 0 mercury in them, since 2000. jeff47 Feb 2012 #53
FYI, I recently read differently. proverbialwisdom Feb 2012 #63
Yes, well, you read a website that is totally full of shit. TheWraith Feb 2012 #67
You should probably go back and re-read my post for the key word you missed. jeff47 Feb 2012 #80
From comments to: http://www.ageofautism.com/2012/05/autism-community-congress-is-listening.html# proverbialwisdom May 2012 #107
If you're going to resurrect a thread from February, you should respond to the post. (nt) jeff47 May 2012 #108
I'm not qualified, however, watch the IOM video to WITNESS the physicians/scientists who are. proverbialwisdom May 2012 #109
No, they're not qualified. jeff47 May 2012 #111
"Fifteen well-respected and tenured researchers & scientists testified at the invitation of the IOM. proverbialwisdom May 2012 #112
Having credentials does not mean you are correct, or qualified jeff47 May 2012 #113
Please DO SEE Wakefield's presentation (38:44 min): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ei0QSvKdgw proverbialwisdom May 2012 #116
So I should change my view based on a documented liar? jeff47 May 2012 #118
Nonsense, as you'd find if you watched THE ENTIRE ASTONISHING VIDEO in post #117. proverbialwisdom May 2012 #119
Yes, to survive as a liar, you have to have an excellent demeanor jeff47 May 2012 #120
You are misinformed, as time will tell; he's been vetted by the highest stakeholders, autismparents. proverbialwisdom May 2012 #121
Nope. jeff47 May 2012 #123
We do agree with Michelangelo's quote, "Trifles make perfection, and perfection is no trifle." proverbialwisdom May 2012 #124
So...you believe him because he lies effectively. jeff47 May 2012 #125
Also recommended: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67U0_SUt5NM proverbialwisdom May 2012 #117
I think you'd be hard pressed to prove even that quakerboy Feb 2012 #73
Oh I am not sure there is a link, but still it is not good to have mercury in your water Taverner Feb 2012 #84
I am definitly on your side in this discussion, but, just to keep to the facts... reACTIONary Feb 2012 #102
I wasnt aware of that quakerboy Feb 2012 #103
You might want to look at the autism spectrum a little closer... jmowreader Feb 2012 #72
Do you include people with concerns about individual vaccines pnwmom May 2012 #115
My Dad's doctor told him to get a colonoscopy (screening) or find another doctor. limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #2
so if your dad doesn't get the screening, then gets sick, provis99 Feb 2012 #4
Do you think doctors should kick out people who decline a colonoscopy? limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #5
it's a private business. they can refuse any customer they want. provis99 Feb 2012 #6
But you think people should be kicked out if they don't have a colonscopy. That's different. limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #11
Do you think that a DR should have to waste time quakerboy Feb 2012 #74
This is off topic. The thread is supposed to be about vaccinations. limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #79
I thought you raised a good point quakerboy Feb 2012 #95
According to medical ethics, patients can legally and ethically refuse any treatment or Zoeisright Feb 2012 #7
Zoe is, in fact, quite right tavalon Feb 2012 #16
Do you think my dad is the suing type? limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #9
Your dad not getting a colonoscopy won't kill me or my family. jeff47 Feb 2012 #50
I am not an 'anti-vaxer' by any means and in fact have had LibertyLover Feb 2012 #82
I'm not saying you are jeff47 Feb 2012 #87
The point is with those who, for different reasons, cannot get vaccinated. KitSileya Feb 2012 #93
I don't. 1620rock Feb 2012 #3
Doctors should no more "dismiss" patients for declining a recommendation than shoe salespeople... saras Feb 2012 #8
problem is - those unvaccinated kids mzteris Feb 2012 #49
The problem is, though, once again, where does it end? LeftishBrit Feb 2012 #55
Vaccine's are somewhat of a special case Sgent Feb 2012 #10
That's what I would think too bhikkhu Feb 2012 #12
Just wanted to point out Sgent Feb 2012 #13
Oh, really? Missy Vixen Feb 2012 #36
Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #39
Word XemaSab Feb 2012 #41
No worries, there are plenty of Homeopathic doctors for these families. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #14
I hope that's sarcasm. nt Confusious Feb 2012 #15
Do those doctors accept homepathic paper money as payment? boppers Feb 2012 #75
That's punishing the child for the parents' idiocy mainer Feb 2012 #17
Well, those parents are trying to kill my kid. jeff47 Feb 2012 #18
The parents are already punishing their child for their own idiocy. cleanhippie Feb 2012 #19
The kid is a fucking biological weapon due to the parent's idiocy alcibiades_mystery Feb 2012 #31
Best reply in the whole thread MissB Feb 2012 #61
Holy shit that's a spot-on post. Codeine Feb 2012 #64
Then maybe the parents should stop being idiots. Problem solved. (nt) Posteritatis Feb 2012 #78
Attorneys can "fire" clients hifiguy Feb 2012 #20
My baby docs did this - and I approve AngryAmish Feb 2012 #21
It makes sense Aerows Feb 2012 #22
Good proud2BlibKansan Feb 2012 #23
Exactly. I dont want my kid getting one of the serious diseases because of someone else's paranoia. stevenleser Feb 2012 #33
I know some pediatricians have special days for non-vax kids mainer Feb 2012 #24
Freedom of conscience is a two-way street Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2012 #27
Should provide a market for non-vac doctors, then. MNBrewer Feb 2012 #28
My worry is that this will push the anti-vaxers further into woo-woo crap Taverner Feb 2012 #47
Then Darwin will take care of the problem. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2012 #54
I agree with the docs, no use trying to reason with woo-woos. Odin2005 Feb 2012 #29
There are a lot of dermatologists that will refuse to see people with obvious suntans stevenleser Feb 2012 #32
My pediatrician was actually among the first to do this. Denver Donkeys Feb 2012 #35
On one hand this is good - anti-vax nuts would be hard to talk to Taverner Feb 2012 #46
Most jumped that shark long back... JCMach1 Feb 2012 #69
While I think that the anti-vaccine movement is dangerous and repulsive... LeftishBrit Feb 2012 #52
Let's say you're an anti-vaxxer. jeff47 Feb 2012 #56
This is my concern. The child is a victim, and may not be able to get healthcare. mainer Feb 2012 #89
Rude dismissal of people with legitimate concerns about vaccines Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #57
No. jeff47 Feb 2012 #62
This not a Republican forum Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #65
Specifically what "nuanced" solution are you trying to create? jeff47 Feb 2012 #85
As to mercury - Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #90
If you want to be utterly pedantic, you should be correct yourself. jeff47 Feb 2012 #97
I was very clear in my initial post about mercury in vaccines Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #100
Because the discussion is based on pseudo-science of the first order JCMach1 Feb 2012 #68
Did you look at the medical research articles I provided? Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #70
But what you don't post is all the studies to the contrary... JCMach1 Feb 2012 #77
You might want to read what I actually wrote, rather than what you assume I wrote. Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #86
Lots of problems. boppers Feb 2012 #76
Mandatory v. Voluntary are not the only options. Ms. Toad Feb 2012 #92
I would do it if I were a doctor... such complete idiocy amounts JCMach1 Feb 2012 #66
Good - Having unvacinated children in their office is a health threat NeedleCast Feb 2012 #81
Good for them, those idiots put the rest of us at risk... truebrit71 Feb 2012 #83
K&R PhoenixAbove Feb 2012 #91
FYI. Clumsy, but embedding links causes the text to vanish. proverbialwisdom Feb 2012 #104
Related thread. proverbialwisdom Mar 2012 #105
Barbara Loe Fisher: The Battle to Defend Non-Medical Vaccine Exemptions Is Worth Fighting proverbialwisdom Mar 2012 #106
FORBES: Revised Recommendations for Vaccines Are Being Phased In, CDC Report Says. proverbialwisdom May 2012 #114
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