General Discussion
In reply to the discussion: civil war on DU [View all]marions ghost
(19,841 posts)we will always be "crazy." Who cares really? Especially since we see them as batshit crazy.
We on the progressive side don't have solidarity in this NSA matter apparently. So it has to be hashed out. People feel strongly about this & are going to vent a lot. What is being done by the NSA should make us all angry but some see criticizing the massive data mining as an attack on them personally. They have invested in this defensive position for a variety of reasons IMO. Not only are they defending Obama, but also defending their own sense of security, and the quaint notion that America operates as a positive force for good in the world. Is this a good country when the government is so corrupt and because it is so corrupt, has to put its own citizens and as many world citizens as it can corral, under a microscope? This country is acting like a self-serving greedy war-mongering bully with totalitarian tendencies. This country is losing the soul it once had. Selling it to the devil. People do not want to see how bad it is. So they defend.
I'm fine with anger and dismay being shown here (within the terms set by the site). Yes, it can be done in a less negative way & still get the point across. But I'd rather see people get angry than worry about what the Oligarchy might "think." We don't have to put on a good show for anybody. That's too paranoid.
People who pay attention to politics should be feeling very angry about what we are learning about the NSA et al. And we need to be strong in our views. So for the moment, I think it's a healthy discussion. Since I'm on the anti-data mining side, I think it's important to see and understand the thinking of people who would defend it.