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In reply to the discussion: The myth behind Brazil's Lula is crumbling [View all]BainsBane
(53,066 posts)13. of course it wasn't a revolution
Who imagined it was? He was elected. It wasn't even an electoral revolution. I have never heard anyone claim it was a revolution. He was a change from Fernando Henrique and Collor.
Brazil has never had a revolution. Even their independence movement was relatively peaceful, the principal battle being at Bahia where the Portuguese navy held on until July 2, 1823.
These protests are a major deal. Whether they will constitute a revolution, it's too soon to tell.
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Crime in Sao Paulo is extremely high with the same base causes - out of control gangs.
hack89
Jun 2013
#35
i recently read an article which said that lula = brazilian bourgeosie v. US more than 'left'
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#6
oh, you considered that an elaboration? i thought you meant it as a rebuttal.
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#10
i didn't think what i wrote was so difficult as to need clarification. local/nationalist bourgeois
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#12
no relationship between knowing something about portuguese history and using the word
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#17
I've learnt something from BainsBane in this thread, from well-written posts
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2013
#20
thanks again teach expert on islam now an expert on brazil my some posters do get around
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#31
Yeh, it's like a surgeon not getting all the cancer out. If she doesn't get it all out,
Zorra
Jun 2013
#26
of course that was my point, & anyone could understand it except the personal harrassment
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#32
Lula's election was huge! His accomplishments are considerable but the people awakened to
byeya
Jun 2013
#24