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4. Bullshit.

Reply to graham4anything (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 19, 2013, 02:20 PM

Jun 2013

He could just as well have meant that an ounce of preventing an overreaching govt. would be worth a pound of cure.
His most important quote was this

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

You have no idea of what Benjamin Franklin would be in favor of, but I highly doubt that he would be in favor of drones that are used to kill people, spy on people, etc.

Your ideas of security and the power of the State really scare the hell out of me.

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Ben Franklin on the surveillance scandal [View all] Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 OP

Ben Franklin "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure". His most important quote graham4anything Jun 2013 #1

Bullshit. premium Jun 2013 #4

Did Franklin every actually present an argument in support of that pithy quote? Orrex Jun 2013 #9

Actually here's the quote, premium Jun 2013 #10

Sorry--didn't mean to single you out Orrex Jun 2013 #14

He was a Revolutionary, and the English would have used his meta-data as an excuse to imprison him corkhead Jun 2013 #6

I enjoy history lessons from Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 #7

I'm convinced he's either Andy Kauffman, a reincarnated Random Thoughts, a Manny wannabe corkhead Jun 2013 #12

He also said "Early to bed and early to rise" even though he was known as a hearty partier. hobbit709 Jun 2013 #8

Another Franklin quote. hobbit709 Jun 2013 #11

Apparently, he was talking aobut fires: Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #16

His most important quote was clearly... Fla_Democrat Jun 2013 #20

“A Republic, if you can keep it.” Catherina Jun 2013 #2

Good points. MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #3

In today's world, I am certain Ben's meta-data alone would have gotten him Gitmo'd corkhead Jun 2013 #5

I would be willing to bet you that maxrandb Jun 2013 #13

What BS. hobbit709 Jun 2013 #15

Hmm, sounds to me like Ben would have done anything to catch Arnold maxrandb Jun 2013 #17

They were the right men at the right time in history. But definitely flawed. Franklin wanted to KittyWampus Jun 2013 #19

Franklin would have been labeled a PINO (Patriot In Name Only) By Many On DU KittyWampus Jun 2013 #18

Could you imagine the gnashing of teeth if DU had maxrandb Jun 2013 #21