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(1,451 posts) Mon Jun 10, 2013, 09:07 PM Jun 2013

How do you feel about publicly shaming private citizens who behaved badly? [View all]

A husband allegedly bragging about cheating on his wife has been publicly shamed on Facebook, after a train passenger overheard his conversation.

The picture of the man, who had been traveling on a train from Philadelphia with friends, has since been shared more than 183,000 times since a Pennsylvania mother posted in on Wednesday.

'If this is your husband, I have endured a 2 hour train ride from Philadelphia listening to this loser and his friends brag about their multiple affairs and how their wives are too stupid to catch on. Oh please repost...' Steph Strayer wrote on Wednesday.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2337983/The-husband-accused-cheater-183-000-people-Facebook-mother-claims-overheard-bragging-affairs-train.html

On the other side of the country, a soldier returned to his home in Washington state to find that his wife had broadcasted his (alleged) cheating to the entire world. Technically speaking, he could get court martialed and sent to prison, as adultery is illegal in the military.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2338407/Unfaithful-soldiers-wife-welcomes-home-sign-says-Welcome-Home-Cheater.html

Is this the new normal for enforcing decency?

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How do you feel about publicly shaming private citizens who behaved badly? [View all] apples and oranges Jun 2013 OP

Anyone who condones this is a terrorist. n/t Old Union Guy Jun 2013 #1

Yes, this is the new normal. Tien1985 Jun 2013 #2

Welcome to the 21st Century. sadbear Jun 2013 #3

It would be ironic if he was just blowing smoke to impress his buddies Fumesucker Jun 2013 #4

Good chance of that, and most of his buddies probably recognize that as well. Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #38

Technology and our participation in it has reduced our privacy loyalsister Jun 2013 #5

Well, you could say that bragging about your affairs on a train reduces your privacy. Squinch Jun 2013 #7

Depends on whether you are the shamee or the one the shamee was cheating on. Squinch Jun 2013 #6

I'm ok with it too. david13 Jun 2013 #8

the first one is just HEARSAY and could be totally lies nt msongs Jun 2013 #9

Doesn't really matter. He's telling his pals and strangers that he's been rolling in the hay a # of Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #22

We don't even know that much... FreeJoe Jun 2013 #106

They posted a recording of him, is what I think the OP says. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #114

Is my brain not working? FreeJoe Jun 2013 #115

Maybe he'll shut up next time. Talk about something important like what the fuck is this? randome Jun 2013 #10

I'm pretty fuckin fine with it. -nt- b.durruti Jun 2013 #11

All for it if a law has been broken, but this crosses a line. Skip Intro Jun 2013 #12

Sounds like nosy had nothing to do with it. The guy was spouting on a train about how he sleeps Squinch Jun 2013 #51

Um, the guy on the train is not the same guy SomethingFishy Jun 2013 #52

Um, the guy on the train was cheating on his wife, bragging about it for two hours publicly on Squinch Jun 2013 #55

Sorry, got confused in all this... SomethingFishy Jun 2013 #58

And you find out your mother is sleeping with her health aid. Squinch Jun 2013 #59

Remember the gay Rutgers student who committed suicide after his roomate posted Zorra Jun 2013 #13

How can we compare Tien1985 Jun 2013 #14

That is a pretty big, bright line. (nt) DirkGently Jun 2013 #19

And homosexuality was involved in that other scenario, when the guy was not "out." Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #21

Ah, homosexuality was involved. Exactly what do you mean by that? nt Zorra Jun 2013 #47

Exactly what I said. It was a homosexual tryst, and the guy wasn't "out." Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #70

So what makes gay sex so much worse than adultery in your POV? Zorra Jun 2013 #90

The point is, public shaming can have unintended, disastrous consequences. Zorra Jun 2013 #46

My point is Tien1985 Jun 2013 #61

+1 snagglepuss Jun 2013 #53

There is absolutely no comparison Drale Jun 2013 #29

Publicly bragging about making a fool of your spouse is maybe asking for it. DirkGently Jun 2013 #15

I bet all those jerks were getting stiffies thinking of what he-men they were Whisp Jun 2013 #16

Bragging loudly on a train means no expectation of privacy. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #17

Guy #1 was speaking in public. So, it's fitting to "publicize" it further. Honeycombe8 Jun 2013 #18

The first one... one_voice Jun 2013 #20

He publicly shamed himself. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #23

Pretty disgusting that people find this behavior acceptable, especially the first one. Behind the Aegis Jun 2013 #24

Good points! apples and oranges Jun 2013 #25

If people want their cheating to be their own business, they should shut the fuck up geek tragedy Jun 2013 #33

Oh? Is infidelity a crime now? I must have missed that memo. opiate69 Jun 2013 #37

Ethically, it's a lot closer to a crime than it is to geek tragedy Jun 2013 #39

Your analogy is off. Behind the Aegis Jun 2013 #71

In moral terms, the two are not remotely the same. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #82

There's that word, "moral." Behind the Aegis Jun 2013 #84

"So most people on this website believe." geek tragedy Jun 2013 #87

It does include me; what an absurd conclusion. Behind the Aegis Jun 2013 #88

That was my point--of course you reject (rightly so) the idea geek tragedy Jun 2013 #89

Yes, but this event took place in the "real world" not ours. Behind the Aegis Jun 2013 #91

Spot on, BtA. Also, not surprised at some of the names I see applauding this crap. opiate69 Jun 2013 #34

It is really surprising given the recent events involving the NSA. Behind the Aegis Jun 2013 #76

Well said. HappyMe Jun 2013 #35

I was surprised to, especially given the reactions about the NSA. Behind the Aegis Jun 2013 #78

There are some in DU who are regularly accused of vigilante-ism... Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #40

That's a horrendously bad analogy. Spider Jerusalem Jun 2013 #42

It is a superbly apt analogy. Behind the Aegis Jun 2013 #74

No, it really isn't Spider Jerusalem Jun 2013 #93

Your analogy is patenly absurd and out of the fruit range. Behind the Aegis Jun 2013 #94

He made it the business of everyone who had to hear him treestar Jun 2013 #73

That doesn't give someone the license to pass along that information esp with a photo. Behind the Aegis Jun 2013 #75

If he didn't want his wife hurt, HE should have shut up about it in a public place treestar Jun 2013 #77

That would have been ideal. Behind the Aegis Jun 2013 #80

That you don't know treestar Jun 2013 #83

That is kind of my secondary point. Behind the Aegis Jun 2013 #85

Maybe this lady was cheated on herself treestar Jun 2013 #100

Your excellent points got my imagination going. kentauros Jun 2013 #98

This is exactly why I don't do social media. Initech Jun 2013 #104

And we worry about the government listening in?? asjr Jun 2013 #26

I think it should be limited to public officials, and narcs who raid medical marijuana sites. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #27

Honestly, it really depends. Deep13 Jun 2013 #28

Instead of telling him to shut up olddots Jun 2013 #30

It's the tool of a weak and lazy mind. npk Jun 2013 #31

I can take a picture of anyone and do this to them. MrSlayer Jun 2013 #32

But if someone did that to my husband, it'd be funny REP Jun 2013 #49

I think it's pathetic and/or shitty. "Look at me"-ism out of control. MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #36

Interesting reading all the responses. tech3149 Jun 2013 #41

In my experience, LWolf Jun 2013 #44

It's not okay. LWolf Jun 2013 #43

What about the privacy of the 1st women whose marriage and intelligence been publically mocked? snagglepuss Jun 2013 #56

What about it? LWolf Jun 2013 #60

Morals are relative. This jerk made it evident that he has no shame therefore it ought snagglepuss Jun 2013 #62

We can't LWolf Jun 2013 #63

He made it clear that privacy has no value for him so why impose your values on him? snagglepuss Jun 2013 #64

It's not a value. It's a civil liberty. LWolf Jun 2013 #67

We are not talking about govt prying. This guy who spews out snagglepuss Jun 2013 #68

It was inferred. nt LWolf Jun 2013 #113

How's that song go? "Kill the one you're with." No, that's not it... randome Jun 2013 #45

I've been saying for YEARS Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #48

i am against such gross intrusions into other people's lives La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2013 #50

What goes on in a marriage is really no one's business except for the Cleita Jun 2013 #54

Public shame only works if people are shameful for their actions Malik Agar Jun 2013 #57

Suppose this man has children dendrobium Jun 2013 #65

I believe the guy who committed the infidelity probably has more to do with their suffering IdaBriggs Jun 2013 #110

Before the Internet zeeland Jun 2013 #66

Exactly. snagglepuss Jun 2013 #69

Bragging aloud on public transportation treestar Jun 2013 #72

Agree on both counts. CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #86

Living in a huge city does that treestar Jun 2013 #102

It's sad that some people think this is okay. liberalmuse Jun 2013 #79

don't have a problem with either Niceguy1 Jun 2013 #81

The first guy- Made a public spectacle of himself (and his wife/marriage) DevonRex Jun 2013 #92

The second one made me think how I'd react if I lived kentauros Jun 2013 #99

Yeah, that's exactly what she did, LOL!!!! OMG. DevonRex Jun 2013 #105

don't have a problem with either Niceguy1 Jun 2013 #95

case by case KentuckyWoman Jun 2013 #96

Seems risky to me shawn703 Jun 2013 #97

As long as government isn't imposing the shaming, it's just a private matter Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #101

How does one shames those who have no shame? LanternWaste Jun 2013 #103

Like the old days FreeJoe Jun 2013 #107

I don't know if public shaming is necessarily a good thing... cynatnite Jun 2013 #108

What worries me FreeJoe Jun 2013 #109

This message was self-deleted by its author Sheldon Cooper Jun 2013 #111

Here's a whole website devoted to it: Dr. Strange Jun 2013 #112