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RobertEarl

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17. Here is the thread headline

Tue Jun 4, 2013, 01:47 AM

Jun 2013

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Hot Water From Fukushima is Entering Pacific Ocean

Not as you said: "Cooking the ocean" or "heating the ocean."

You are not remembering correctly. You may now apologize for posting your bullshit, not just once, but twice.

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Could we, right now, feasibly go 100% renewable energy for the entire nation? [View all] Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 OP

Between wind and solar, we should be able to liberal N proud Jun 2013 #1

And we grind to a halt on windless nights, especially in winter Socialistlemur Jun 2013 #32

I wonder if they used the hydro madokie Jun 2013 #37

Indeed they can. kentauros Jun 2013 #55

We have pumped hydro madokie Jun 2013 #58

It's a great idea and I'm glad to see it being used. kentauros Jun 2013 #61

oh bullshit... n/t nebenaube Jun 2013 #65

No. I'll have to look up the study... backscatter712 Jun 2013 #89

according to who? what expert agrees with you? do post a link. cali Jun 2013 #42

The Future Could Not Be Clearer for Renewable Energy kristopher Jun 2013 #74

The OP is talking about NOW. YOU are talking about the future. cali Jun 2013 #119

Renewables are expanding NOW cprise Jun 2013 #121

Is a High Renewables Future Really Possible? kristopher Jun 2013 #75

"the only thing limiting us may be our imagination" kentauros Jun 2013 #77

I wish that were true. Laelth Jun 2013 #51

Start here: kentauros Jun 2013 #60

Um ... the sun produces a lot of energy, no doubt. Laelth Jun 2013 #62

The technology does exist, kentauros Jun 2013 #66

I am not disputing capacity at all. Laelth Jun 2013 #68

Of course, you're thinking in terms of how much it would cost to get that power to Kansas. kentauros Jun 2013 #69

That's just an uninformed opinion cprise Jun 2013 #72

So, one largely rural state will have a minority of it's power supply from renewables... brooklynite Jun 2013 #91

Um, lets see... cprise Jun 2013 #120

That just isn't realistic wercal Jun 2013 #57

Lots of errors there, my friend kristopher Jun 2013 #78

Lets look at these individually wercal Jun 2013 #81

Next time try commenting after you read the paper kristopher Jun 2013 #82

I do this for a living wercal Jun 2013 #87

You do what for a living? kristopher Jun 2013 #88

I've been a licensed engineer for twelve years....practiced for seventeen wercal Jun 2013 #92

It isn't a matter of opinion. kristopher Jun 2013 #96

Lets try a little systems analysis, shall we wercal Jun 2013 #100

I'm sorry but you are still opining from ignorance kristopher Jun 2013 #101

You accuse me of making stuff up... wercal Jun 2013 #104

There is nothing mystical about it kristopher Jun 2013 #106

Again wercal Jun 2013 #108

Call Sven. kristopher Jun 2013 #109

You see...this is why you are a dreamer wercal Jun 2013 #111

You don't bother reading anything, do you? kristopher Jun 2013 #113

Good grief wercal Jun 2013 #114

Hello darkness, my old friend wercal Jun 2013 #122

100% nuclear isn't an option either. FBaggins Jun 2013 #2

What I'm saying is that if fossil fuel and renewable are not current options... Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #4

WTF? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #6

Aren't you the guy who said that Fukushima was cooking the ocean? Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #7

That is bullshit RobertEarl Jun 2013 #9

No, you're definitely the one. You posted that image claiming Fukushima was heating the ocean. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #10

See my journal for the threads RobertEarl Jun 2013 #11

You were proven wrong almost immediately. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #13

Cherry pick? RobertEarl Jun 2013 #15

It was demonstrated that the temperature increase near Fukushima was an anomaly. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #16

Here is the thread headline RobertEarl Jun 2013 #17

"All the water around Japan is cooler than usual. But there is that Fukushima anomaly hot spot..." Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #18

You finally got something accurate RobertEarl Jun 2013 #21

I'll apologize when you admit nuclear energy is thousands of times less deadly than coal. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #24

Lets see RobertEarl Jun 2013 #25

So I'm going to take that as a non-attempt on your part. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #26

Go tell the Japanese how safe nukes are RobertEarl Jun 2013 #29

Well considering the Japanese have 50 nuclear reactors. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #35

You're batting a thousand RobertEarl Jun 2013 #36

I'm not concerned with popular sentiment. I'm concerned with reality. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #38

Denmark is small but a renewable leader. moondust Jun 2013 #3

And, despite building thousands of wind turbines ... Laelth Jun 2013 #50

We could be RobertEarl Jun 2013 #5

Um ... I have my doubts. Laelth Jun 2013 #53

Only if we could break the corporate stranglehold on everything.... Wounded Bear Jun 2013 #8

Right now, no Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #12

You make a reasonable point. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #14

Realistically it requires major changes to the grid Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #31

Fossil fuel powered energy plants is not the problem. Burning fossil fuels moving people and stuff Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #19

It seems that electricity production is the single largest CO2 emitter. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #20

OK, I can accept this as far as it goes, but I have serious reservations that this is Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #41

The real question is: RobertEarl Jun 2013 #22

That's not the real question. However, I have a surprisingly small footprint. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #23

Right now, no. Ten to Twnety Years, yes if the government were willing to create Agnosticsherbet Jun 2013 #27

Not without nuclear. Not even close. nt Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #28

Between nuclear and a bit of warming, I'd rather be a bit warm Socialistlemur Jun 2013 #30

Being "a bit warm" is not the issue with climate change. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #33

Possible? Yes, if we imported all of our food and converted 90% of engines in the country to diesel Recursion Jun 2013 #34

Those seem like pretty lofty expecations. I'm really looking for what is feasible... Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #39

Important distiction... napoleon_in_rags Jun 2013 #40

No. GliderGuider Jun 2013 #43

How do you power aircraft with renewables? customerserviceguy Jun 2013 #44

Aircraft absolutely require fossil fuels, no doubt. Laelth Jun 2013 #49

Electric engines... Bay Boy Jun 2013 #56

You don't need fossil hydrocarbons - you only need hydrocarbons aka biodiesel kristopher Jun 2013 #80

Use electricity to create fuel. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #90

electricity, already being done uponit7771 Jun 2013 #102

The size/weight ratio doesn't scale jberryhill Jun 2013 #115

I'm not sure that a 100% renewable economy is possible... Earth_First Jun 2013 #45

No way. Not even close. Laelth Jun 2013 #46

At this point honestly... Chan790 Jun 2013 #47

I agree. Laelth Jun 2013 #48

Even with a Manhattan Project effort Kelvin Mace Jun 2013 #52

Of course we can dumbcat Jun 2013 #54

Spot on. Laelth Jun 2013 #63

No way badtoworse Jun 2013 #59

Nuclear is evil, the greater and lesser and all in~between. Tikki Jun 2013 #64

All or nothing, huh? Iggo Jun 2013 #67

In practice, NO, but if we had used the base that Carter laid down for us SoCalDem Jun 2013 #70

Why nuclear is just evil cprise Jun 2013 #71

People living in refugee camps and dead people don't need electricity. hunter Jun 2013 #73

Feasible? Yes. (with the exceptions of heavy industry and transportation) n2doc Jun 2013 #76

What about grid stability? badtoworse Jun 2013 #79

Read this post above kristopher Jun 2013 #83

I'll look at the links tomorrow badtoworse Jun 2013 #95

I can see that. kristopher Jun 2013 #99

Um, by shutting down excessive turnbines (like they do in high wind situations)? You could also use FSogol Jun 2013 #84

What will you do when the wind drops and you can't supply all the load? badtoworse Jun 2013 #97

You changed the question. The OP said 100% renewable for the ENTIRE nation. n/t cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #94

Well, I did say 'no', under those terms n2doc Jun 2013 #118

No. The infrastructure is not in place. It would take a huge investment FSogol Jun 2013 #85

I think it is asking about "right now" (IOW existing) technologies. kristopher Jun 2013 #86

Sure. As soon as you figure out to move 10,000 ton trains with renewable energy. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #93

Electricity is an excellent energy carrier for trains. kristopher Jun 2013 #98

Moving freight trains on electricity is inherently ridiculous jberryhill Jun 2013 #116

Electricity already used on trains uponit7771 Jun 2013 #103

10,000 ton freight trains? cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #105

You asked about trains and trucking kristopher Jun 2013 #107

The OP said "feasibly go 100% renewable energy for the entire nation". cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #110

Yes, I suspect it was worded poorly. kristopher Jun 2013 #112

How are you planning to get the freight on and off? jberryhill Jun 2013 #117