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baldguy

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Mon May 27, 2013, 08:48 PM May 2013

Which Dogs Bite? [View all]

http://www.mercer.edu/psychology/faculty_staff/wright_jc/downloadable_articles/Which_Dogs_Bite_A_Case-Control_Study_of_Risk_Factors.pdf

Which Dogs Bite?: A Case-Control Study of Risk Factors; Gershman K. A., Sacks J. J., Wright J. C., Pediatrics. 1994 Jun; 93 (6 Pt 1): 913-7.

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We identified biting dogs (cases) from all 1991 reports to the Denver Municipal Animal Shelter (DMAS), the animal control agency for Denver County. Eligible cases were dogs reported to DMAS in 1991 for biting a nonhousehold member and whose victim received medical treatment as indicated on the bite report. We excluded dogs if they had bitten a nonhousehold member before the reported bite in 1991 because the owners, in response, may have changed dog-rearing practices, discipline, and training, and because dogs that repeatedly bite are likely to be removed from the household. We also excluded dogs if more than one dog was involved in the bite episode, the dog had been owned for < 6 months before the reported bite, the owner was not a Denver County resident, or if the owner's telephone number was not listed on the bite report.

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Children aged 12 years and younger were the victims in 51% of cases. Compared with controls, biting dogs were more likely to be German Shepherd or Chow Chow predominant breeds, male, residing in a house with ? 1 children, and chained while in the yard.

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Pediatricians should advise parents that failure to neuter a dog and selection of male dogs and certain breeds such as German Shepherd and Chow Chow may increase the risk of their dog biting a nonhousehold member, who often may be a child.


http://www.nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dogbites/whatisadogbite/

Breed Labeling and Dog Bites

Bite totals become even more misleading when subdivided by breed descriptors. At least half of the dogs in the United States are mixed breed dogs. It is impossible to breed label dogs of unknown history and genetics solely on the basis of their appearance.

Research conducted at two (2) universities has confirmed that attempts to identify visually the breeds in a dog of unknown origin correlate poorly with a DNA analysis of the same dog. Further, different observers, even those with considerable experience with dogs, do not agree with each other. Nevertheless, animal controls and shelter workers continue to assign single breed descriptors to dogs likely to be of mixed breed whose origins are unknown.

Even if visual breed identifications were accurate, dog bite totals still would not provide evidence that some breeds or groups of dogs bit more frequently than others. Breed populations within a given jurisdiction are not known. Therefore, incident rates cannot be calculated with any accuracy. Further, on the basis of samples obtained from veterinary clinics, animal shelters, and dog licensing, we can conclude that the popularity of types of dogs varies from place to place, and changes over time.

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There is no national system in the United States for tallying reports of dog bites. The often-repeated estimates currently cited to argue that there is still a dog bite "epidemic" derive from two telephone surveys conducted to assess a wide variety of injury risk factors and injuries. The first survey was conducted in 1994. From among the 5,328 persons who responded to this survey, interviewers obtained reports of 186 dog bites participants reported had occurred within the 12 months prior to the interview. (Only 38 of the 186 bitten sought medical attention). The second survey, conducted between July 2001 and February 2003, returned a result showing that dog bites had declined overall, and had declined significantly among children.

Note: breed labels in media reports is based almost entirely on visual breed identification.

In the 2 studies noted above (1) (2), professional dog experts were asked to view a number of dogs and visually identify the predominant breed of the dogs. These professionals were wrong 43% of the time. Remember this anytime you see a news report of a "Pit Bull" biting someone. Trying to identify a dog's breed visually is little better than flipping a coin.

http://www.nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dogbites/the-problems-with-dog-bite-studies/

We have always known the cause of dog bite injuries

From the first dog bite study published more than 50 years ago until today, the conclusions and recommendations of the researchers have shared a lot in common.

"This study of the epidemiology of dog bites would seem to indicate that human factors are more important than environmental factors in the genesis of dog bites." -- Henry M. Parrish, 1959

"Education programs aimed at influencing the behavior of pet owners, particularly with respect to the responsibilities of ownership, would do much to reduce the magnitude of the problems." -- H. Michael Maetz, 1975

"Poor owner control blamed for increase in dog bites." -- Washington Post, 1975

"The growing problem of dog control can only be solved if dog owners realize their responsibilities as pet owners." -- Lancaster Farming, 1978

"Efforts to prevent severe dog bites should be focused primarily at the level of the owner." -- John C. Wright, 1985

"Generic non-breed-specific dangerous dog laws can be enacted that place primary responsibility for a dog's behavior on the owner . . . In particular, targeting chronically irresponsible down owners may be effective." -- Jeffrey J. Sacks, et al, 2000

"The dog bite problem is not a disease problem with a single vector; it is a complex societal issue that must address a wide range of human behaviors in ways that deal with irresponsible behavior that puts people and animals at risk." -- Randall Lockwood, 2007

If we want better outcomes in our communities, we need to promote responsible pet ownership: the humane care, custody and control of all dogs.


If you're REALLY worried about dog bites, you should support correcting the things that cause them: like making sure that all dogs are trained & socialized properly, making sure that all dogs are spayed or neutered, making sure that no dogs suffer neglect and/or abuse, and if they do, making sure the dogs are properly rehabilitated.

You should NOT do is to fixate on one particular factor to the exclusion of all else and which is not determinative in predicting bites - the breed of dog. When you see a web site or story reporting that the breed is the SOLE determining factor, THEY ARE LYING TO YOU! And when you spread their lies, you are doing nothing to help curb the problem you're concerned about. And when you support Breed Specific Legislation, you're actually making that problem worse. Why? Because it is a simplistic approach to a complex problem, and it doesn't address the real issues.

The Humane Society of the United States, the American Veterinary Association, the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the American Kennel Club, the American Bar Association, and the National Canine Research Council - In short, precisely ALL of the people who know the relevant law, medicine & canine behavior – they ALL are opposed to Breed Specific Legislation and breed bans.
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Which Dogs Bite? [View all] baldguy May 2013 OP
I'm sorry, but you know... Spider Jerusalem May 2013 #1
Not true. Google is your friend. nt jazzimov May 2013 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author MattBaggins May 2013 #42
You're feeding the lies. baldguy May 2013 #5
Disingenuous bullshit. Spider Jerusalem May 2013 #8
You've obviously never worked border collies. I've seen them dragged from the arena after literally Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #17
Yep, only agressive dog I ever had was a Border Collie. SwissTony May 2013 #62
That's just what I tell the people that ask me to recommend a dog. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #85
+1000 HillWilliam May 2013 #93
You need horses, every 6 weeks you get free chew toys! Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #94
Free time? HillWilliam May 2013 #98
Have to agree SwissTony May 2013 #105
"Disingenuous" is to keep posting bullshit which has been repeatedly debunked. baldguy May 2013 #24
I had a pit bull beagle mix. Gore1FL May 2013 #36
Yeah that's bollocks. sibelian May 2013 #119
Blue Heelers are the most dangerous dogs in Australia XemaSab May 2013 #16
Then why aren't they included in the breed ban in Australia? baldguy May 2013 #21
They're working dogs XemaSab May 2013 #40
You're advertising your ignorance. baldguy May 2013 #43
Let me guess...you've never been to Australia SwissTony May 2013 #57
I've had two heeler mixes XemaSab May 2013 #61
You are not familiar with the breed SwissTony May 2013 #106
wrong answer. Ed Suspicious May 2013 #34
Yes yes, they're four-legged orcs Scootaloo May 2013 #44
Humans may be the primary factor... Spider Jerusalem May 2013 #58
And the problem remains negligent owners Scootaloo May 2013 #84
So basically assholes are more likely to own pit bulls. XemaSab May 2013 #2
Assholes are more likely to own aggressive dogs. baldguy May 2013 #11
Generally today - yes. At one time jazzimov May 2013 #12
And don't forget what the assholes did to the Alsatian (German Shepard). Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #18
Want to talk about your dangerous dogs, Xema? flvegan May 2013 #69
According to the pit bull apologists, bad dogs come from bad owners XemaSab May 2013 #88
"What am I going to do, take them back to the pound?" baldguy May 2013 #90
That is the reason Pittys get a horrible rep Drale May 2013 #101
'Pit bulls' have a bad "rep" ronnie624 May 2013 #107
O really were did you get that stat? Drale May 2013 #110
"genocide against dogs"? ronnie624 May 2013 #111
Dogbite.org is a notoriously anti-pitbull site Drale May 2013 #112
You carefully avoid relevant statistics ronnie624 May 2013 #115
I did not avoid anything Drale May 2013 #116
Gosh...does this mean that Pit Bulls don't bite? bvar22 May 2013 #3
What constitutes a "dangerous dog"? jazzimov May 2013 #10
What constitutes a "Dangerous Dog"? bvar22 May 2013 #14
Any dog *CAN* kill or maim with it's bite. baldguy May 2013 #19
"Any dog *CAN* kill or maim with it's bite." bvar22 May 2013 #22
If you don't think small dogs can kill you're delusional. baldguy May 2013 #29
Your links are a JOKE, as is your position. bvar22 May 2013 #31
In the first link the small dog KILLED the infant. baldguy May 2013 #35
Only a moron would leave an 8 day old infant with a dog of any size. Walk away May 2013 #46
Well, we're dealing with morons. Aren't we? baldguy May 2013 #50
Anything with teeth can bite. The world is not a safe place. freshwest May 2013 #6
And that right there is the real problem. We've become a nation of frightened children Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #86
I'm sorry, but your evidence is not only weak it is laughable. Soundman May 2013 #7
Prove it false. baldguy May 2013 #13
What is there to prove? Soundman May 2013 #28
The article pointed out the only proof of the supposed dog bite "epidemic" were phone surveys. baldguy May 2013 #32
So if we euthanize all the TheCowsCameHome May 2013 #9
That's true for every breed of dog. Because every breed of dog bites. baldguy May 2013 #15
It's really clear to me defacto7 May 2013 #20
Spot on blueamy66 May 2013 #87
Does your dog bite?... SidDithers May 2013 #23
Alright, thanks for the laugh. AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #82
If not you, I was ready! "Iss nut my dug." WinkyDink May 2013 #95
You don't have these problems with cats. Skip Intro May 2013 #25
Actually, a cat bite is much more likely to result in hospitalization than a dog bite REP May 2013 #26
Glad you're ok, Skip Intro May 2013 #33
Well, that's why people generally don't want cats to be bigger than 20lbs or so... REP May 2013 #37
Nice looking cat. Skip Intro May 2013 #41
Awww REP May 2013 #83
But haven't you heard of the pit bull type feline? defacto7 May 2013 #49
I have one! REP May 2013 #73
Awww... love it! defacto7 May 2013 #80
Just a head, no body? flamingdem May 2013 #65
She's mostly hair REP May 2013 #77
HA! Ask Rosie O'Donnell. Ask my two friends! INFECTIONS! WinkyDink May 2013 #96
Rosie O'Donnell almost lost her finger/hand due to a fishing hook injury -- not a cat bite. Arugula Latte May 2013 #100
Yep. I'm happy to be a cat person. Arugula Latte May 2013 #99
Cat bites and scratches get easily get infected Drale May 2013 #102
More fucking dog bite bullshit. Seriously? Why? The point will NEVER be proven by EITHER side... cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #27
That's just it: It has been proven repeatedly that Pit Bulls aren't any different from other dogs. baldguy May 2013 #45
and you will just dig your hole deeper. defacto7 May 2013 #48
The truth has been proven repeatedly. baldguy May 2013 #51
Here is what you're offering as "truth" Orrex May 2013 #54
What you're dismissing out of hand are peer-reviewed studies baldguy May 2013 #64
A consensus of two rabid pit bull fetishists does not impress me Orrex May 2013 #71
Yeah but it's no lie they're hideously ugly LOL. cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #55
I just know that I have people compliment my dog every day saying how beautiful she is. baldguy May 2013 #60
They say that because they're afraid that the vile beasts would attack them otherwise Orrex May 2013 #76
I can't figure out which end is the front. TheCowsCameHome May 2013 #92
pit bulls. nt galileoreloaded May 2013 #30
No matter how many posts you throw against the wall rustydog May 2013 #38
If this guy wasn't so serious... defacto7 May 2013 #47
You notice, nobody has even attempted to try to disprove anything I've posted. baldguy May 2013 #52
Some issues with the study. nicky187 May 2013 #53
The morons claim there *IS* a correlation between Pit Bulls and biting behavior. baldguy May 2013 #56
Sure do. nicky187 May 2013 #122
Then you aren't reading. defacto7 May 2013 #63
Trying to channel Pee Wee Herman - and failing at it - doesn't count. baldguy May 2013 #67
Tisk, tisk defacto7 May 2013 #75
These dog threads are a riot. nt rrneck May 2013 #39
Aren't they? ! defacto7 May 2013 #66
Of course, any dog will bite. polly7 May 2013 #59
Your study from 1991 seems out of date. Pit bulls have become much more popular since then. Flatulo May 2013 #68
Why bother? flvegan May 2013 #70
Have you seen this report? Flatulo May 2013 #72
Any study that suggests that pit bulls aren't delightful little angels must be rejected Orrex May 2013 #74
Merritt Clifton? Please, be serious. baldguy May 2013 #78
Yeah, it even admits that it ignores issues that don't support their pre-determined opinion LostOne4Ever May 2013 #91
WE MUST BANNED LIGHTING Drale May 2013 #118
LOL, another pit bull defense post! What a shock! n-t Logical May 2013 #79
Yeah, like spiced ham defacto7 May 2013 #81
ANY dog will bite, but a 4 lb Chihuahua will likely do less damage than a Pit Bull (for instance) nt bike man May 2013 #89
Yep. They have to wait until you're asleep so they can reach your throat! Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #97
You have not seen the damage my 5-pound Chihuahua RebelOne May 2013 #121
If we got real about animal abuse penalties get the red out May 2013 #103
Chihuahuas. RebelOne May 2013 #104
All of them n/t ismnotwasm May 2013 #108
Sheesh, I don't think I've ever met a dog that didn't want to chew on me. DCKit May 2013 #109
"Many countries have outright bans on the import of Pit Bulls" The Straight Story May 2013 #113
Hundreds of Dogs Seized and Put Down in the UK The Straight Story May 2013 #114
Which explains why so many places have banned German shepherds and chow chows. KamaAina May 2013 #117
I love watching Cesar Milan felix_numinous May 2013 #120
I'd be far more interested in knowing ... nicky187 May 2013 #123
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