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Egalitarian Thug

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9. Writing from memory and can't find an online reference for you, but here is where I
Sun May 19, 2013, 06:58 PM
May 2013

started;

Illegal Drugs By Paul Gahlinger

You've pointed out one of the problems with using statistical methodology to glean information, it frequently doesn't reflect anecdotal experience. That destructive drug abuse (note that the above linked reference does not distinguish between drugs based on legal status) has increased significantly in your hometown doesn't preclude the likeliness that it has dropped in someone else's.

The point is that drug abuse has always existed in human populations. Most of us use them for a while and quit or use them in moderation, but there is and has always been a remarkably consistent minority that don't and either increase their use or continue to use until they become ill and die. Another factor that is so hard to account for, due to the constantly shifting legal status of these substances, is in assigning a value to relative harm caused. There are more than a few rock stars, for example, that have been heroin addicts for decades, but because they have the means to acquire pharmaceutical grade heroin and good medical care, they don't suffer many of the effects we see in the street-level addicts.

Meth is one of today's favorite bogey-men of the prohibitionists. Methamphetamine has been around since the 19th century. We've given it to soldiers, children, fat people, depressed people, etc. for over a century. It is not a good thing for the human body or mind, but the severity of the deleterious effects commonly shown in order to scare people is mainly due to the fact that it's illegal (Trivia: Pot is a schedule 1 drug while meth is schedule 2) necessitates its black market production that includes all manner of impurities and other toxins. IOW, in many cases the shit that's in it because it's illegal is worse than the meth itself.

Good video. davidthegnome May 2013 #1
The difference in economically devastated communities is that drugs are one of the few ways HiPointDem May 2013 #3
The question that leaps to my mind... davidthegnome May 2013 #5
not rambling at all. it's a huge picture with lots of aspects. when people become poorer, they HiPointDem May 2013 #8
One of the most ignored facts in this whole issue is the percentage of the population Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #4
I'd like to see the source for that claim, because in my hometown (which i have known intimately HiPointDem May 2013 #7
Writing from memory and can't find an online reference for you, but here is where I Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #9
"doesn't preclude the likeliness that it has dropped in someone else's". nor does it preclude the HiPointDem May 2013 #10
I'm not really concerned with your belief or lack thereof. I gave you the book, the book Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #11
why the snark? i asked a civil question in a civil manner. HiPointDem May 2013 #12
Dude, just returning the favor. Perhaps we have a lack of communication here. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #13
If you make a claim on the internet, it's up to you to provide some evidence. Scientific research HiPointDem May 2013 #14
I did, you have no interest in learning. Not my problem. n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #15
i have no interest in buying an expensive book to find a cite that may or may not exist. you HiPointDem May 2013 #16
du rec. nt xchrom May 2013 #2
Yes, I see it as an excuse to go after minorities and the poor.. ananda May 2013 #6
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