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In reply to the discussion: In case people wonder why AZ has a water problem... [View all]truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)164. At 8" or less of rainfall per year, I'd call it a high desert. A sagebrush sea....
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And while I agree with you about money and backroom deals, this would be far too big and long-term a project to sneak around with...they would have to get public opinion on their side and it would be totally against it. Farmers, sportsmen, environmentalists, fishermen, industry and just plain xenophobes...everybody.
Trust me on this, I was a resident of the area for many years.
Edited to add: This may be the only issue on which all the residents of the area would agree
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Growing food is still incredibly water intensive. We need to let it be desert landscape.
Gravitycollapse
Apr 2013
#3
Trying to offset the heat island with grass is not a reasonable solution.
Gravitycollapse
May 2013
#29
I hope someone in a position of responsibility is taking a hard look at this problem.
CaliforniaPeggy
Apr 2013
#2
No, Utah definitely does not have enough, as we are a desert state, too.
Common Sense Party
May 2013
#69
Eastern Oregon, eastern Washington and Idaho don't have any water to spare
truebluegreen
May 2013
#142
They have 3 times as many Senators as Arizona, all more interested in CYA and re-election
truebluegreen
May 2013
#162
At 8" or less of rainfall per year, I'd call it a high desert. A sagebrush sea....
truebluegreen
May 2013
#164
The geographical definition of desert is "less than 10 inches of annual precipitation",
Art_from_Ark
May 2013
#166
How could you forget the dopey flake. What an embarrassment that prick is.
lonestarnot
May 2013
#115
Your assertions contradict almost all information on the problem. Please provide some substance.
Matariki
May 2013
#82
I'm going to mark you down as having no evidence to support your claim.
Gravitycollapse
May 2013
#96
Xeriscaping would be better unless the use is for sports or recreation, however...
CreekDog
May 2013
#13
I have a lawn. I never water it, never use chemicals. It dries up in the summer and comes back
HiPointDem
May 2013
#35
and you've just made my point. grasses are plants designed to survive low rainfall & drought.
HiPointDem
May 2013
#152
depends on where you live & what kind of grass. plenty of places where grass works just fine
HiPointDem
May 2013
#159
Do you have a bit of evidence that xeriscaping has had any effect on the heat island?
Gravitycollapse
May 2013
#25
and then there's the millions of dollars, year after year, that they throw down the NHL hole
Electric Monk
May 2013
#16
Actually, the older neighborhoods have more desert landscaping than the new ones.
Gravitycollapse
May 2013
#22
That's a problem, yes...and golf courses, and lawns...but agriculture is a bigger one
Spider Jerusalem
May 2013
#49
Had a stopover at the Phoenix airport ten years ago and as we were landing, was
indepat
May 2013
#57
Regardless of the consequences they may bring tomorrow, today's "freedoms"
LanternWaste
May 2013
#160
Phoenix is just about the stupidest place I've ever been. Sorry, but it's true.
Matariki
May 2013
#66
Yeah, good luck with that. The few in this thread will not back up their claims.
Gravitycollapse
May 2013
#87
The miles & miles of large open canals bringing water across the desert from the Colorado River
emsimon33
May 2013
#79
There are literally dozens if not hundreds of large grassy areas on the ASU campuses.
Gravitycollapse
May 2013
#97
Yes, actually I have. Other than recreational fields the grass is a negligent amount.
Safetykitten
May 2013
#99
Go into Google Earth and take a look for yourself. What you're saying is entirely untrue.
Gravitycollapse
May 2013
#100
No, it is not. The percentage of buildings to turf and actual turf area is small.
Safetykitten
May 2013
#101
Stop talking and take a look. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
Gravitycollapse
May 2013
#103
I did that Google Earth drawing for you. I am on campus right now. I am here 5 days a week.
Gravitycollapse
May 2013
#119
You're telling me you graduated 33 years ago and your experience is still relevant?
Gravitycollapse
May 2013
#122
I'm here to tell you that I don't give a single shit about the heritage of our grass lawns.
Gravitycollapse
May 2013
#132
It's adorable that you think government standards on sustainability are ideal...
Gravitycollapse
May 2013
#138
Oh and another thing. What the fuck does the fact that I graduated 33 years ago have?
Safetykitten
May 2013
#125
When was the last time that you actually walked through campus? Be honest.
Gravitycollapse
May 2013
#130
In what post did you state you walked through the ASU campus last week?
Gravitycollapse
May 2013
#133
I've lived in Phoenix since 1993. And your own argument is confused and inconsistent.
Gravitycollapse
May 2013
#137
That great "There's no more water. Nothing grows here. You have to move." rant?
Junkdrawer
May 2013
#170
Los Angeles has a rather mild form of rationing, but it is definitely water rationing.
JDPriestly
May 2013
#139