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Safetykitten

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121. Many of the cities offer rebates or money outright to get rid of lawn.

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Fri May 3, 2013, 12:02 AM

May 2013

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A design I did for a client that took all his lawn out won the client an award from Scottsdale.

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In case people wonder why AZ has a water problem... [View all] Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 OP

Now, if they took that space, and ones like it Bennyboy Apr 2013 #1

Growing food is still incredibly water intensive. We need to let it be desert landscape. Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #3

xeriscape kardonb May 2013 #28

Trying to offset the heat island with grass is not a reasonable solution. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #29

it certainly isn't cooling the air in Phoenix. CreekDog May 2013 #39

It cools the air through WATER LOSS. Scootaloo May 2013 #77

If only Arizona had more water, it would be Heaven. Jackpine Radical May 2013 #156

I hope someone in a position of responsibility is taking a hard look at this problem. CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2013 #2

Naw quakerboy May 2013 #31

You mean like what southern CA does? former9thward May 2013 #55

Yes. From Utah. Common Sense Party May 2013 #62

Probably quakerboy May 2013 #68

No, Utah definitely does not have enough, as we are a desert state, too. Common Sense Party May 2013 #69

Colorado River water is already over-alloted truebluegreen May 2013 #143

Eastern Oregon, eastern Washington and Idaho don't have any water to spare truebluegreen May 2013 #142

Do you think they have the political power to fight Arizona? quakerboy May 2013 #161

They have 3 times as many Senators as Arizona, all more interested in CYA and re-election truebluegreen May 2013 #162

Im not saying public good quakerboy May 2013 #163

At 8" or less of rainfall per year, I'd call it a high desert. A sagebrush sea.... truebluegreen May 2013 #164

The geographical definition of desert is "less than 10 inches of annual precipitation", Art_from_Ark May 2013 #166

Ah! Thank you for that... truebluegreen May 2013 #168

The only officials I know of in Arizona pennylane100 May 2013 #36

How could you forget the dopey flake. What an embarrassment that prick is. lonestarnot May 2013 #115

There isn't a problem dbackjon May 2013 #42

Your assertions contradict almost all information on the problem. Please provide some substance. Matariki May 2013 #82

Others have given good links dbackjon May 2013 #84

I'm going to mark you down as having no evidence to support your claim. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #96

Have you provided any evidence? dbackjon May 2013 #149

Golf course capital of the world too! Coyotl Apr 2013 #4

Yeah, I'm ashamed to say I enjoy the sport. Gravitycollapse Apr 2013 #6

Reclaimed water helps ChazII May 2013 #40

A golf course in AZ should be one giant sand trap KamaAina May 2013 #61

+1 Blue_Tires May 2013 #51

Grass is a green desert. The thirstiest of landscaping by far. alittlelark Apr 2013 #5

Xeriscaping would be better unless the use is for sports or recreation, however... CreekDog May 2013 #13

100 year plan = corporate bullshit. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #18

Your post is so full of errors dbackjon May 2013 #43

Phoenix gets 36% of their water from the Colorado NickB79 May 2013 #56

From your link dbackjon May 2013 #63

..... keep believing that alittlelark May 2013 #113

I have a lawn. I never water it, never use chemicals. It dries up in the summer and comes back HiPointDem May 2013 #35

In the Southwest, it's very different. JDPriestly May 2013 #140

The Great Plains were wall to wall grass truebluegreen May 2013 #144

and you've just made my point. grasses are plants designed to survive low rainfall & drought. HiPointDem May 2013 #152

Native grasses are so designed, but they won't look like lawns truebluegreen May 2013 #157

depends on where you live & what kind of grass. plenty of places where grass works just fine HiPointDem May 2013 #159

Single largest crop in the US. /nt TheMadMonk May 2013 #38

I wish you could eradicate it d_r May 2013 #59

My grass thrives just fine w/o water or fertilizer. NutmegYankee May 2013 #88

It probably helps that you live in Virginia. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #108

I don't live in Virginia. Try the Nutmeg state... NutmegYankee May 2013 #109

Ah, sorry. It probably helps that you live in Connecticut. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #110

And that would be true. NutmegYankee May 2013 #111

Connecticut, right? truebluegreen May 2013 #145

Gonna 'reply to all' here.... alittlelark May 2013 #136

+1000 n/t truebluegreen May 2013 #146

Dryland farming. eom littlemissmartypants Apr 2013 #7

Atlanta is in worse shape thelordofhell Apr 2013 #8

And most of California dbackjon May 2013 #44

K/R. NYC_SKP Apr 2013 #9

Bit of a canary in a coal mine progressoid May 2013 #10

Sorry, I think Las Vegas takes the "least sustainable" prize. KittyWampus May 2013 #11

Las Vegas learned how not to run a city from Phoenix. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #12

LV has a water problem. Phoenix does not dbackjon May 2013 #45

I'm going to mark you down as being part of the problem. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #94

And you are marked down as someone that spreads irrational fear dbackjon May 2013 #150

that's completely wrong, az and phx don't have a water problem Mosby May 2013 #14

Wow, wasn't expecting propaganda in this thread. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #17

that article is pretty thin on evidence Mosby May 2013 #20

Do you have a bit of evidence that xeriscaping has had any effect on the heat island? Gravitycollapse May 2013 #25

You really have no clue what you are talkin about dbackjon May 2013 #23

Are you joking? Bruce Babbitt helped doom this state. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #26

You ARE aware that Phoenix sits on an AQUIFER, yes? Dreamer Tatum May 2013 #37

This seals it - you are just a troll. dbackjon May 2013 #48

Do you not realize the irony of your posts in here? Gravitycollapse May 2013 #95

The only one spreading lies and propoganda in this thread dbackjon May 2013 #46

Are they still air-conditioning the outdoors? Retrograde May 2013 #24

Yes, air conditioning the outdoors is a staple of Arizona. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #27

And ranchers use 90% of AZ's agricultural water n/t Nevernose May 2013 #80

I agree. I wonder why they didn't convert that to xeriscape? LeftInTX May 2013 #15

and then there's the millions of dollars, year after year, that they throw down the NHL hole Electric Monk May 2013 #16

In the 90s, people thought anything was possible. caseymoz May 2013 #21

To be fair, the Coyotes came at a time Blue_Tires May 2013 #50

Most homes now have desert landscaping ChazII May 2013 #19

Actually, the older neighborhoods have more desert landscaping than the new ones. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #22

Again, you are wrong dbackjon May 2013 #47

not true waddirum May 2013 #71

Horse shit. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #98

Read Cadillac Desert SheilaT May 2013 #30

Swimming Pools OnlinePoker May 2013 #33

Excellent, excellent book! truebluegreen May 2013 #147

Im guessing the fact that many seem to quakerboy May 2013 #32

Same could be said of Vegas... awoke_in_2003 May 2013 #34

Future development site dbackjon May 2013 #41

That's a problem, yes...and golf courses, and lawns...but agriculture is a bigger one Spider Jerusalem May 2013 #49

The entire OP is flawed. former9thward May 2013 #52

Yup!! dbackjon May 2013 #151

In my minds eye Turbineguy May 2013 #53

GOOD JOB! You found the only patch of grass in Phoenix snooper2 May 2013 #54

Had a stopover at the Phoenix airport ten years ago and as we were landing, was indepat May 2013 #57

we had a pool in our last house. almost every house DesertFlower May 2013 #90

the Collapse documentary d_r May 2013 #58

But is it grey water irrigated??? JCMach1 May 2013 #60

Good chance, yes dbackjon May 2013 #73

i agree galileoreloaded May 2013 #64

I think every American has the right to live anywhere in the U.S. waddirum May 2013 #72

Regardless of the consequences they may bring tomorrow, today's "freedoms" LanternWaste May 2013 #160

I was at a conference in Phoenix in the middle OldHippieChick May 2013 #65

Phoenix is just about the stupidest place I've ever been. Sorry, but it's true. Matariki May 2013 #66

Glad you are gone dbackjon May 2013 #75

Phoenix: The World’s Least Sustainable City Matariki May 2013 #67

agreed! its horrible and stupid.. stay away!! galileoreloaded May 2013 #70

Another bullshit article that doesn't have a clue dbackjon May 2013 #74

Just out of curiosity can you point to links backing that up? Matariki May 2013 #76

Up thread there is a link dbackjon May 2013 #83

link Mosby May 2013 #91

Thanks for the link - looking forward to reading it. Matariki May 2013 #92

I could make a pretty good argument for Dubai JCMach1 May 2013 #165

I can find link after link saying that Phoenix has a water problem Matariki May 2013 #78