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In reply to the discussion: KRUGMAN: "Bush lied us into war. Let’s repeat that: he lied us into war." [View all]calimary
(83,505 posts)20. And in case someone might have missed it the first time...
HE LIED US INTO WAR.
Oh yeah, and one more thing: NOT EVERYONE believed there were WMD. And those who didn't were muzzled, discouraged from reporting or saying anything for fear of being called un-American or a Saddam-lover or a cheese-eating surrender-monkey or sympathizer thereof. OR a Neville Chamberlain. Anybody get that one? (I certainly did!) Or they were fired for even trying. Remember when you could be fired FOR EVEN TAKING A PHOTO OF FLAG-DRAPED COFFINS COMING BACK FROM IRAQ, FOR PUBLICATION?????? And those who shouted us down invariably said - "well, we don't know what THEY know. We don't see the classified info that bush and his advisors are seeing. So it's not for us to say or second-guess." Anybody get that one? That was a cutie, too.
DEAR GOD those were terrible times!!! And our media, which has been grilling Obama relentlessly, and never stopped baying at Bill Clinton's heels, just gave bush/cheney a complete pass. Nothing but softballs. Never really questioned ANYTHING. And those who dared were abruptly shown the door, or sent to the seat in the last row at the back of the room (like what they did to Helen Thomas). Gross Dereliction of Duty. NOW they want to make up for it. Where were they THEN???????
Oh yeah, and one more thing: NOT EVERYONE believed there were WMD. And those who didn't were muzzled, discouraged from reporting or saying anything for fear of being called un-American or a Saddam-lover or a cheese-eating surrender-monkey or sympathizer thereof. OR a Neville Chamberlain. Anybody get that one? (I certainly did!) Or they were fired for even trying. Remember when you could be fired FOR EVEN TAKING A PHOTO OF FLAG-DRAPED COFFINS COMING BACK FROM IRAQ, FOR PUBLICATION?????? And those who shouted us down invariably said - "well, we don't know what THEY know. We don't see the classified info that bush and his advisors are seeing. So it's not for us to say or second-guess." Anybody get that one? That was a cutie, too.
DEAR GOD those were terrible times!!! And our media, which has been grilling Obama relentlessly, and never stopped baying at Bill Clinton's heels, just gave bush/cheney a complete pass. Nothing but softballs. Never really questioned ANYTHING. And those who dared were abruptly shown the door, or sent to the seat in the last row at the back of the room (like what they did to Helen Thomas). Gross Dereliction of Duty. NOW they want to make up for it. Where were they THEN???????
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KRUGMAN: "Bush lied us into war. Let’s repeat that: he lied us into war." [View all]
kpete
Apr 2013
OP
With Obama's birth certificate, it was more a long shot than for a random person (or even more a
karynnj
Apr 2013
#70
Everybody knows that Bush lied us into the Iraq War. Why isn't he in prsion for life? mt
ladjf
Apr 2013
#9
I believe the Republicans counted on the fact that his father was a president would give him cover..
Spitfire of ATJ
Apr 2013
#16
Because we have a history of going to war based on lies, see the Maine and the Second Gulf of Tonkin
Hippo_Tron
Apr 2013
#78
You are certainly not alone. I'm sickened by the sound of their names and when I realize they are
The Wielding Truth
Apr 2013
#50
Bush was reportedly told that if he were president during a war he'd be re-elected.
byeya
Apr 2013
#11
I've always believed that's why we went to war...so he could get the second term daddy didn't!
Sekhmets Daughter
Apr 2013
#32
We heard so much about "Clinton lied", but Bill Clinton's lie did not get 4500 killed
Thinkingabout
Apr 2013
#34
The major media was complicit in this lie - they didn't ask questions, they just fell into line.
reformist2
Apr 2013
#40
It appears some of the same people who enabled Bush are trying to lie us into Syria and Iran.
Ford_Prefect
Apr 2013
#49
Is anyone who was dumb enough to believe those lies at the time likely to now feel any regret? (nt)
harmonicon
Apr 2013
#57
Not legal as such...Merely a job requirement. Although it seems to be a well honed talent for some.
Ford_Prefect
Apr 2013
#61
Yes.... Let me rephrase...I don't understand why being able to lie is a job requirement....
midnight
Apr 2013
#62
If we were truly the great democracy we proclaim, Bush and his cronies would have been held
spicegal
Apr 2013
#63
Starting a war also helped cover-up the actions of the Junta stealing the office, changed the focus
Coyotl
Apr 2013
#75
Heard a blurb about the Library on NPR, and they allowed Bush's lie to repeat without comment
Ian_rd
Apr 2013
#65
If it wasn't for you fine folks and people like Dr. Krugman I'd think I was in a Twilight Zone.
raouldukelives
Apr 2013
#67