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In reply to the discussion: Kick and Goddamned R if you don't want to Attack Syria! [View all]dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)37. Thank you
We need to speak up early and loud about this.
I don't know where the blame lies. Although I don't trust Obama to steer clear, it's more that I don't trust that he'll stand firm against the people who are really pushing for this intervention.
For one thing, I don't trust Hagel. He's a Republican, he has or had presidential ambitions, and he is in tied to the electronic voting machines through his connections to ES&S.
From his wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Hagel:
in 1992 Hagel moved back to Nebraska to become president of the McCarthy Group, LLC, an investment banking firm.[26] He also served as a Chairman and was CEO of American Information Systems Inc. (AIS), later known as Election Systems & Software, a computerized voting machine manufacturer jointly owned by McCarthy Group, LLC and the Omaha World-Herald company.[25][27] On March 15, 1995, Hagel resigned from the board of AIS as he intended to run for office.[28] Michael McCarthy, the parent companys founder, was Hagels campaign treasurer.[29] Until at least 2003, he retained between $1 million and $5 million in stock in Election Systems & Software's parent company, the McCarthy Group.[30]
Contrarily, he is not an AIPAC stooge, and I believe AIPAC and McCain are itching for the U.S. to intervene in Syria. The chemical accusations came from Israel, if I'm not mistaken. So I don't now what to think about that. A lot of red flags for me but I don't understand all of the dynamics involved.
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President Obama Strikes Again! - Liberal, Progressive - Yeah, I Won't Fall For That BS Any More
cantbeserious
Apr 2013
#4
Because our Progressive President made a condition which he thought was safe.
Savannahmann
Apr 2013
#7
That sell-out Donkey is not a Progressive! Answer to your question: Special War Tax of 91% 0n Wealth
grahamhgreen
Apr 2013
#200
You actually make my point for me. As Poppy Bush always said, leaders shouldn't do hypotheticals.
reformist2
Apr 2013
#33
They're gathering evidence. Britain has detected Sarin gas, too. It's not just the U.S.
randome
Apr 2013
#66
so taking the as you call it 'paulian' policy of not goingh to war in Syria will likely
azurnoir
Apr 2013
#166
These are the same folks who told us all about Saddam's WMDs. I think there is a credibility issue.
Comrade Grumpy
Apr 2013
#106
"Are people born stupid or do they take an extra-strength dumbass pill everyday?" +1 n/t
Smarmie Doofus
Apr 2013
#32
Hagel is not pushing for intervention. Just last week he was cautioning against it, at the
TwilightGardener
Apr 2013
#89
There's only one explanation after the Iraq War. The Saudis own much of the USG and media.
leveymg
Apr 2013
#53
I've seen that movie, too. No more wars over hearsay. No facts = no war, goddammit.
ancianita
Apr 2013
#62
This was the first thing I heard this morning, after my alarm... 'red line' propaganda.
redqueen
Apr 2013
#102
The only reason this is happening at all is the usual gaggle of Republican Chicken Hawks
LongTomH
Apr 2013
#130
The problem with many responses on this thread is that all future wars apparently lead to the past.
randome
Apr 2013
#137
Exactly. And what about treaties and alliances that the US is signatory to? Do we just ignore....
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2013
#159
It's been discussed for two years. Only Russia & China have declined. Russia....
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2013
#194
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results
RyanThomas
Apr 2013
#141
I don't want to attack Syria, and your supposition of what would ensue is probably
gateley
Apr 2013
#153
No way no more war.... We need to start a jobs program to put everyone back to work...
midnight
Apr 2013
#170
Is this the way we're supposed to come out of the second great depression?
MrMickeysMom
Apr 2013
#191