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carolinayellowdog

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13. this is a moment of reevaluation for any progressive Democrat

Sat Apr 13, 2013, 06:28 PM

Apr 2013

or is it democratic Progressive? I've been in the latter category for a long time and Obama and co. may have just pushed millions over the line.

Post a class solidarity pledge along these lines and ask people to sign it. I would.

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It's time to examine where my loyalties lie, you judge, I'll just explain my position. [View all] Dragonfli Apr 2013 OP

K&R! We have fallen far! MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #1

The 99% are stirring, we may overwhelm the bastards with numbers and take back our party Dragonfli Apr 2013 #12

Kick! DJ13 Apr 2013 #2

And Lyin Ryan gleefully proposes.... socialindependocrat Apr 2013 #3

If I could do the 'sticky" thing to keep this... 99Forever Apr 2013 #4

+1 n/t ChazII Apr 2013 #20

I completely agree with where our loyalties should be. And that the party we joined was the most sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #5

I can see that people are waking up (except for in the bubblesphere of TV and DC) Dragonfli Apr 2013 #10

Actually the Democrats got sidetracked and hijacked in the early 90's Armstead Apr 2013 #88

That's true. It definitely did begin then. But we didn't have the internet then so it was less sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #93

Amen - Hell Hath No Fury Apr 2013 #6

I'm right there with you. K & R. whathehell Apr 2013 #7

Thank you, Dragonfli etherealtruth Apr 2013 #8

I'm with you word for word Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #9

The way they use the term shared sacrifice is an insult to our intelligence and innate morality Dragonfli Apr 2013 #15

Here, here! ChaoticTrilby Apr 2013 #57

Dragonfli - i was thinking along these same lines, but truedelphi Apr 2013 #11

I love that idea, voting on the issues, rather than for people. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #14

Perhaps Gingrich had the idea in the 1990's... Blanks Apr 2013 #98

I agree truedelphi and I like Sabrina's take on it Dragonfli Apr 2013 #30

Or maybe we should do something similar to parliamentary type systems Cleita Apr 2013 #50

Might I add (with props to Norman Goldman)... Stardust Apr 2013 #105

Spot on! Veilex Apr 2013 #106

Those are very good ideas. truedelphi Apr 2013 #113

This concept of voting on issues, not canditates, is brilliant. Seriously. Wish I Stardust Apr 2013 #109

this is a moment of reevaluation for any progressive Democrat carolinayellowdog Apr 2013 #13

A little history and something I didn't know until yesterday when I was Cleita Apr 2013 #16

Well, Harry was willing to incinerate civilians. Perhaps HW was not. WinkyDink Apr 2013 #34

Maybe. Shameful history all the way. n/t Cleita Apr 2013 #36

Good find! I must have learned and forgotten that bit from history. Dragonfli Apr 2013 #37

We need to take this party over. They keep shoving us socialist progressive types Cleita Apr 2013 #38

Very interesting, there's a lot I didn't know about our history either and in many ways I have Bush sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #42

I beleive you made a right decision, but I am a commie. :) idwiyo Apr 2013 #17

Me too, Id......... socialist_n_TN Apr 2013 #21

TWO commies... Someone will be here shortly to accuse us of planning to take over DU! idwiyo Apr 2013 #31

Oh that's already happened........ socialist_n_TN Apr 2013 #35

:) :) :) idwiyo Apr 2013 #41

I consider you reds allies, were it not for Communists the "New Deal compromise" Dragonfli Apr 2013 #52

Why THANK you Dragon....... socialist_n_TN Apr 2013 #55

There are no differences between us really. Socialism and Communism is not something that can be idwiyo Apr 2013 #75

Mixed economy is just one of the steps towards communism. :) idwiyo Apr 2013 #72

Kick. idwiyo Apr 2013 #94

Brava!!! OneGrassRoot Apr 2013 #18

One aspect of this huge disconnect SheilaT Apr 2013 #19

Well, that is interesting, SheilaT Iwillnevergiveup Apr 2013 #83

I've read the Rick Bragg book. It's very good. SheilaT Apr 2013 #85

Personally, I love history but I've become skeptical about who to trust anymore. nt Stardust Apr 2013 #108

Proud to STAND with YOU and the Class that birthed me too. bvar22 Apr 2013 #22

The Second bill of rights is an expression of my ideal party values Dragonfli Apr 2013 #54

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Apr 2013 #23

I'm with you. Now... cbrer Apr 2013 #24

I don't know, but I hope it is not 'even more extreme poverty', that spark may involve Dragonfli Apr 2013 #58

Until we rid ourselves of an obstructionist House... randome Apr 2013 #25

We could move a whole lot more of it if so-called Democrats weren't making Republican proposals sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #45

Helping to move harmful legislation is not the answer to obstructionism. Dragonfli Apr 2013 #63

Loyalities, disillusionment! humbled_opinion Apr 2013 #26

Very nice post, thank you! n/t sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #81

Can't find anything to disagree with here. zeemike Apr 2013 #27

Great position statement Dragon......... socialist_n_TN Apr 2013 #28

'Con los pobres de la tierra'. With the poor people of this earth I want to share my fate. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #29

I'm with you. djean111 Apr 2013 #32

I am WITH you, Dragonfli! New Dealer-bred, born in '49; it defines me and my politics. WinkyDink Apr 2013 #33

Well, I'll be damned... whathehell Apr 2013 #44

K&R! SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #39

Think back to Obama's reaction during the State of the Union to Citizens United . . . SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2013 #40

You must've slept thru the Clinton years... Cooley Hurd Apr 2013 #43

So you didn't read the OP? sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #48

I did. And he's blaming this President for things FAR milder than Clinton did... Cooley Hurd Apr 2013 #51

I didn't use his name, but who else "felt my pain" while exporting our jobs via NAFTA? Dragonfli Apr 2013 #65

Everyone has felt the pain since 1994... Cooley Hurd Apr 2013 #67

"I feel your pain" is a quote consistently attributed to Clinton magical thyme Apr 2013 #96

I read that you meant Clinton. Yes, yes he did begin the rightward slide of this party. ancianita Apr 2013 #70

He spoke about the downward slide of the Democratic Party over the past twenty years. I think that sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #78

No, I was working while volunteering to help real poor people on the lower west Dragonfli Apr 2013 #61

"you inhaled the methane and bought the con job." Cooley Hurd Apr 2013 #66

I'm sorry, I misinterpreted your post to mean I was wrong to criticise him and so Dragonfli Apr 2013 #71

any post consisting of "you"+stupid insult carolinayellowdog Apr 2013 #95

Must K & R L0oniX Apr 2013 #46

Well said, my friend HarveyDarkey Apr 2013 #47

Du rec. Nt xchrom Apr 2013 #49

The Republicans have made a sport out of dumping on the poor Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2013 #53

The Highest Of DU Recommendations cantbeserious Apr 2013 #56

Well Said and I agree... creativebliss Apr 2013 #59

I'm with you 100% obxhead Apr 2013 #60

K&R, I'm with you all the way. ChaoticTrilby Apr 2013 #62

I've never been much of a party guy stupidicus Apr 2013 #64

Bravo, Dragonfli, bravo! democrank Apr 2013 #68

Excellent heartfelt post, thank you for speaking up for the poor. So few do it any more. sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #82

If we could rec posts, this should definitely be one We People Apr 2013 #87

. rhett o rick Apr 2013 #91

I like your post better Dragonfli Apr 2013 #92

You're fine. I'm with you as a progressive social Democrat. I'm for constantly confronting the DLC- ancianita Apr 2013 #69

Bravo. We need more 840high Apr 2013 #73

K&R I'm with you. Anyone who isn't is not a Democrat. forestpath Apr 2013 #74

They only call it "Class Warfare" when we fight back. . . . .n/t annabanana Apr 2013 #76

K&R. Dragonfli. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #77

Well said! Totally agree with you. Riley18 Apr 2013 #79

Maybe all of us should thank (or blame) our teachers who taught us to value principles. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #80

Dragonfli, woo me with science Apr 2013 #84

Doing the 12:45 AM EST kick! Please keep kicking this BobbyBoring Apr 2013 #86

Politicians who don't give a rat's ass about whether you live or die jsr Apr 2013 #89

Thank you, Dragonfli We People Apr 2013 #90

best post I've read all week piratefish08 Apr 2013 #97

Best thread in a long time N_E_1 for Tennis Apr 2013 #99

Our plight today is the far end of an unbroken chain of actors and events going Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #116

K&R Great post, as usual! nt raouldukelives Apr 2013 #100

"Cowards all really, making easy decisions" MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #101

Those w/ the luxuries of job, home, health care, vs those who don't reveals how being comfortable midnight Apr 2013 #102

K&R MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #103

This OP and all the haikugal Apr 2013 #104

Giving this a Sunday K & R Lifelong Protester Apr 2013 #107

K&R G_j Apr 2013 #110

K&R for the weekend. More and more of us are coming to this understanding every day. n/t Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #111

K&R LWolf Apr 2013 #112

K&R DeSwiss Apr 2013 #114

Not my place to judge you. Rex Apr 2013 #115