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In reply to the discussion: Topless Tunisian Activist Amina Tyler: 'Femen Are True Feminists But They Have Insulted Muslims' [View all]Gravitycollapse
(8,155 posts)57. Yes, it is.
http://definitions.uslegal.com/h/hate-speech/
"Hate speech is a communication that carries no meaning other than the expression of hatred for some group, especially in circumstances in which the communication is likely to provoke violence. It is an incitement to hatred primarily against a group of persons defined in terms of race, ethnicity, national origin, gender, religion, sexual orientation, and the like. Hate speech can be any form of expression regarded as offensive to racial, ethnic and religious groups and other discrete minorities or to women."
"Hate speech is a communication that carries no meaning other than the expression of hatred for some group, especially in circumstances in which the communication is likely to provoke violence. It is an incitement to hatred primarily against a group of persons defined in terms of race, ethnicity, national origin, gender, religion, sexual orientation, and the like. Hate speech can be any form of expression regarded as offensive to racial, ethnic and religious groups and other discrete minorities or to women."
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Topless Tunisian Activist Amina Tyler: 'Femen Are True Feminists But They Have Insulted Muslims' [View all]
kwassa
Apr 2013
OP
i don't think she ever said "fuck the koran" and she is still saying she fears for her life
JI7
Apr 2013
#10
Guess it won't matter. She showed her boobs and insulted some in islam
The Straight Story
Apr 2013
#80
well considering she had the words 'fuck the koran' painted on her chest..
Phillip McCleod
Apr 2013
#11
there is no about face , and when did she say "fuck the koran" ? she is still defending
JI7
Apr 2013
#12
oh please, this is like saying one is attacking christians if they criticize Fred Phelps or Robertso
JI7
Apr 2013
#16
this is just ignorant, you think Fred Phelps represents all Christians ? Obama must want gays to die
JI7
Apr 2013
#21
i made perfectly clear that i was talking about fundies if you want to deflect.. deflect..
Phillip McCleod
Apr 2013
#28
She talks about wanting to leave Tunisia as soon as possible - and that's coerced too?
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#161
she went nowhere near as far as Femen does at mosques in Paris, they HATE Islam....
bettyellen
Apr 2013
#159
"fuck the koran" is same difference as "fuck your morals"? that's the stupidest thing you wrote
CreekDog
Apr 2013
#119
What you have done is proven she is being coerced. The 180 degree turn she has now made is proof.
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#8
Which group has a track record of coercion, and which does not? N.T.
Donald Ian Rankin
Apr 2013
#109
You've reduced the legitimacy of her argument to your preconceived narrative.
Gravitycollapse
Apr 2013
#26
let's see. She says she's been kidnapped by her family. She has no indepependent means of
cali
Apr 2013
#169
there are people in this thread trying to spin the facts in the most contemptible way
cali
Apr 2013
#193
All the folks who criticized us here owe us an apology. I'm not holding my breath.
stevenleser
Apr 2013
#211
i'm very criticial of ISlam , i think it's stupid when someone feels the need to bring
JI7
Apr 2013
#70
You are one of those people who do not understand the difference between criticism and hate speech.
Gravitycollapse
Apr 2013
#30
when does hate speech imply it should not be permitted ? have you seen the tea bagger protests ?
JI7
Apr 2013
#43
Yes, that was hyperbole on my part. Maybe he should just be kicked really hard in the groin.
Gravitycollapse
Apr 2013
#53
That is in front of a mosque as an old fart tries kicking for the first time in decades.
Coyotl
Apr 2013
#95
It's a racist physical caricature of Arab men. The equivelant of black face.
Gravitycollapse
Apr 2013
#45
Violent outcome is not necessitated for hate speech. It is simply a possible outcome.
Gravitycollapse
Apr 2013
#73
Yes, well Gravitycollapse's Guide to Proper Ladylike Protests is THE book!
riderinthestorm
Apr 2013
#157
Someone challenging you is not stalking. Don't like it? Don't post on a discussion board.
cali
Apr 2013
#170
"that image doesn't just insult Muslims. It is insulting to Arabic people in general."
Number23
Apr 2013
#62
Sharia law is used throughout many Islamic countries and is not "associated" with only one country
Number23
Apr 2013
#120
She offended. She got offended. People take themselves and their myths too seriously.
morningfog
Apr 2013
#64
She is under duress. She says she was beaten and kidnapped. Gad, what part of any of that is
cali
Apr 2013
#172
No, it was fundie asshole family members kidnapping her & beating the shit out of her.
backscatter712
Apr 2013
#94
My sentiments exactly. Some day those Muslims who get offended by living in this century
morningfog
Apr 2013
#44
It is tough to get much nuance in 3-word slogans painted on the body. Reductio ad absurdum.
kwassa
Apr 2013
#77
Are you a Professor of Women's Studies, or something similar, at a University? nt
Zorra
Apr 2013
#101
We had this exact same problem with Occupy protests. No matter how simple or obvious
Zorra
Apr 2013
#104
Actually, no, I still don't know what "Fuck your morals" means. All the Femen protesters seem to use
kwassa
Apr 2013
#108
In a nutshell, Femen does not want religions, and religon controlled states or persons,
Zorra
Apr 2013
#111
I don't understand how you cannot know what they're saying. It couldn't be clearer.
cali
Apr 2013
#125
What on earth is clear about it? Who are they addressing when it is written in English?
kwassa
Apr 2013
#129
You are obviously religious, and I was thinking that you are experiencing cognitive dissonance in
Zorra
Apr 2013
#155
You really don't understand? That's sad. Seriously sad. Unless of course it's deliberate...
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#186
"My cousin broke my cell phone and beat me." Amina's body must be a serious source of
Zorra
Apr 2013
#82
Frank, on the other hand was acutely...microscopically, you might say...aware of culture. nt
Zorra
Apr 2013
#96
i haven't been able to find the full video anywhere. all the full videos on youtube say
HiPointDem
Apr 2013
#98
Protesters in other cities did write Amina on their bodies, or held up signs with her name.
kwassa
Apr 2013
#116
So what's your point? We know they were protesting in solidarity with Amina
riderinthestorm
Apr 2013
#121
My point is that she was essentially correct in saying that protesters were painting her name
kwassa
Apr 2013
#126
She couldn't more clearly be under duress and that includes duress from her father
cali
Apr 2013
#128
And you're essentially saying her word can't be trusted because she might be scared.
Gravitycollapse
Apr 2013
#164
she is scared. she says she's scared. she's been beaten and threatened. fuck I hate denial and
cali
Apr 2013
#168
So when she says at least her father didn't "kill her", that's supportive?
riderinthestorm
Apr 2013
#142
"we can express ourselves in favor of women's rights" is something he also said.
kwassa
Apr 2013
#146
It's important to note that these protesters are completely missusing the term Jihad...
Gravitycollapse
Apr 2013
#166
As you are the one who said FEMEN is misusing the term, its up to you to explain why.
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#198
Muslims are the only ones who are allowed to use that word? Is this a new universal law?
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#200
Non-Muslims cannot wage Jihad. Unless definitions and histories do not matter to you.
Gravitycollapse
Apr 2013
#202
Literal meaning of Arabic word "jihad" is "struggle" Anyone can use that word in any language
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#205
FEMEN's usage of "Jihad" is in direct reference to the Islam they protest.
Gravitycollapse
Apr 2013
#206
Read my post above for the definition and usage of word "jihad". BTW, did you finally manage
idwiyo
Apr 2013
#207