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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
17. Maybe it has something
Sun Mar 31, 2013, 08:41 PM
Mar 2013

"Barack Hussein Obama will go down as one of the greatest presidents this country has ever seen!!!"

...to do with the caliber and determination of his critics.

While the New Deal did much to lessen the worst affects of the Great Depression, its measures were not sweeping enough to restore the nation to full employment. Critics of FDR's policies, on both the right and the left, use this fact as a reason to condemn it. Conservatives argue, for example, that it went too far, and brought too much government intervention in the economy, while those on the left argue that it did not go far enough, and that in order to be truly effective, the Roosevelt Administration should have engaged in a far more comprehensive program of direct federal aid to the poor and unemployed. But the New Deal's greatest achievements transcend mere economic statistics, for in a world where democracy was under siege, and the exponents of fascism and communism flourished, the New Deal offered hope and restored the faith of the American people in their representative institutions. It also transformed the federal government into an active instrument of social justice and established a network of laws and institutions designed to protect the American economy from the worst excesses of liberal capitalism.

http://www.rooseveltinstitute.org/policy-and-ideasroosevelt-historyfdr/new-deal






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http://books.google.com/books?id=vC5HJloBWugC&lpg=PP1&pg=PA159#v=onepage&q&f=false


Report: Wall Street’s Opposition to Dodd-Frank Reforms Echoes Its Resistance to New Deal Financial Safeguards

Bedrock Consumer Protections Once Were Flogged as ‘Exceedingly Dangerous,’ ‘Monstrous Systems’ That Would ‘Cripple’ the Economy

WASHINGTON, D.C. – As the nation approaches the first anniversary of the Dodd-Frank financial reform law, opponents are claiming that the new measure is extraordinarily damaging, especially to Main Street. But industry’s alarmist rhetoric bears striking resemblance to the last time it faced sweeping new safeguards: during the New Deal reforms. The parallels between the language used both then and now are detailed in a report released today by Public Citizen and the Cry Wolf Project.

In the decades since the Great Depression, Americans acknowledged the necessity of having safeguards in place to prevent another crash of the financial markets, including the creation of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) and the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), and laws requiring public companies to accurately disclose their financial affairs. Although these are now seen as bedrock protections when they were first introduced, Wall Street cried foul, the new report, “Industry Repeats Itself: The Financial Reform Fight,” found.

“The business community’s wildly inaccurate forecasts about the New Deal reforms devalue the credibility of the ominous predictions they are making today,” said Taylor Lincoln, research director of Public Citizen’s Congress Watch division and author of the report. “If history comes close to repeating itself, industry is going to look very silly for its hand-wringing over Dodd-Frank when people look back.”


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In fact, the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act is designed to prevent another Wall Street crash, which really made it tough on everyone by causing massive job loss and severely hurting corner butchers and bakers, as well as retirees, families with mortgages and others. The Dodd-Frank law increases transparency (particularly in derivatives markets); creates a new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to ensure that consumers receive straightforward information about financial products and to police abusive practices; improves corporate governance; increases capital requirements for banks; deters particularly large financial institutions from providing incentives for employees to take undue risks; and gives the government the ability to take failed investment institutions into receivership, similar to the FDIC’s authority regarding commercial banks. Much of it has yet to be implemented.

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http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2011/07/12-0


Why Republicans are So Intent on Killing Health Care Reform

by Richard Kirsch

It’s not just about expanded care. It’s about proving our government can be a force for the common good.

Why are John Boehner, Eric Cantor and Mitch McConnell so intent on stopping health care reform from ever taking hold? For the same reason that Republicans and the corporate Right spent more than $200 million in the last year to demonize health care in swing Congressional districts. It wasn’t just about trying to stop the bill from becoming law or taking over Congress. It is because health reform, if it takes hold, will create a bond between the American people and government, just as Social Security and Medicare have done. Democrats, and all those who believe that government has a positive place in our lives, should remember how much is at stake as Republicans and corporate elites try to use their electoral victory to dismantle the new health care law.

My enjoyment of the MLB playoffs last month was interrupted by ads run by Karl Rove’s Crossroads front group against upstate New York Rep. Scott Murphy, who was defeated last Tuesday. Rove’s ads rained accusations on Murphy, including the charge of a “government takeover of health care.” Some might have thought that once the public option was removed from the health care legislation, Republicans couldn’t make that charge. But it was never tied to the public option or any other specific reform. Republicans and their allies, following the advice of message guru Frank Luntz, were going to call whatever Democrats proposed a government takeover.

There’s nothing new here. Throughout American history, health care reform has been attacked as socialist. An editorial published in the Journal of the American Medical Association in December 1932, just after FDR’s election, claimed that proposals for compulsory insurance “were socialism and communism — inciting to revolution.” The PR firm that the American Medical Association hired to fight Truman’s push for national health insurance succeeded in popularizing a completely concocted quote that it attributed to Vladimir Lenin: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the Socialist State.”

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President Obama and Democrats in Congress understood the historical importance and profound moral underpinnings of the new health care law when they enacted it earlier this year. And they knew that the right-wing attack had soured the public in swing Congressional districts and states on reform. They stood up then. They will have to stand up again, understanding that if they give way to Republicans, they lose more than the expansion of health coverage. They lose the best opportunity in half a century to prove to Americans that government can be a force for the common good.

http://www.nextnewdeal.net/why-republicans-are-so-intent-killing-health-care-reform



thanks ProSense for answering the Cha Mar 2013 #1
How about ProSense Mar 2013 #4
Nope i was not duped into voting for Obama but really we did not have a choice. Thinkingabout Mar 2013 #2
+1 progressoid Mar 2013 #5
duped kardonb Mar 2013 #7
That's the way to phrase it: We really had no choice but to vote for Obama. byeya Mar 2013 #8
Duped? Are you f_ _ king kidding? brush Mar 2013 #28
Nope. Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #3
Not me -- I wanted to vote for him. gateley Mar 2013 #6
The duping always comes after the vote. zeemike Mar 2013 #9
blah, blah, blah, gloom and doom......... George II Mar 2013 #11
Well you may be right...he may not be born yet. zeemike Mar 2013 #15
That's vile, and ProSense Mar 2013 #13
Vial?...Really? zeemike Mar 2013 #16
No, vile, and that was only one word in my response. n/t ProSense Mar 2013 #21
But clearly the most powerful. zeemike Mar 2013 #22
But.but.but..he only did 99.5% of what we want - where's the other half %? Seriously, excellent... George II Apr 2013 #43
Barack Obama nominated Elizabeth Warren... cheapdate Mar 2013 #24
Well I am cynical for sure. zeemike Mar 2013 #26
President Obama's Supreme Court pick, Elena Kagan, OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #32
Sacrilege! You are only supposed to post positive spin in the altar threads!!! Dragonfli Apr 2013 #34
Throughout ProSense Apr 2013 #40
perhaps, perhaps also throughout history there have been and will alway be Dragonfli Apr 2013 #44
Or ProSense Apr 2013 #47
You can do better than that, you're a PRO at this sort of thing /nt Dragonfli Apr 2013 #57
Spare me ProSense Apr 2013 #59
OK, consider your self spared, I find you just as tiresome as you find me Dragonfli Apr 2013 #63
Well said, ProSense. Bogus Anti-Everything Venomous Cha Apr 2013 #60
Health care law, ProSense Apr 2013 #69
Yeah, they have a haterade Venomous Drip for Cha Apr 2013 #70
Until a corporate Democrat loses an election, of course. Marr Apr 2013 #110
An altar thread. OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #56
Some balsa, but to be fair the villains are made of straw, poppits of "haters" Dragonfli Apr 2013 #58
That's the problem with ProSense Apr 2013 #39
Weak sauce. OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #45
"Weak sauce"? ProSense Apr 2013 #46
Everybody knows OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #48
Actually ProSense Apr 2013 #49
If you are unable OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #50
You mean ProSense Apr 2013 #51
You've got nothing, ProSense. OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #53
A lot more than the tired crap you're posting. n/t ProSense Apr 2013 #54
Went in fully informed. And, continuing to kick the asses of the haters who choose to be blind. NYC_SKP Mar 2013 #10
Wasn't duped at all. Proudly voted for him. Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #12
Nothing? Not even the Patriot Act and continued domestic spying? nm rhett o rick Apr 2013 #67
Barack Hussein Obama will go down as one of the greatest presidents this country has ever seen!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2013 #14
Maybe it has something ProSense Mar 2013 #17
Unemployment dropped by 40% and GDP grew 9%+ per year during FDR's first term MannyGoldstein Mar 2013 #29
Why ProSense Mar 2013 #30
Ok. When did FDR first take office? MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #31
It went ProSense Apr 2013 #33
So from 25% to 15% - a 40% drop MannyGoldstein Apr 2013 #41
Yes, ProSense Apr 2013 #42
Duped no not ever! sheshe2 Mar 2013 #18
most people weren't stupidicus Mar 2013 #19
I definitely ProSense Mar 2013 #20
that's understandable, and some would say predictable stupidicus Mar 2013 #25
Hey, ProSense Mar 2013 #27
really? stupidicus Apr 2013 #71
Really? ProSense Apr 2013 #72
thanks for assisting me in validating my point stupidicus Apr 2013 #73
Oh, so ProSense Apr 2013 #74
the truth is never insulting stupidicus Apr 2013 #88
Here's ProSense Apr 2013 #89
thanks for tacitly conceding the validity of my observation and remarks again stupidicus Apr 2013 #90
Wait ProSense Apr 2013 #91
yes, your continual tacit concessions stupidicus Apr 2013 #92
You make no sense. n/t ProSense Apr 2013 #93
admissions as to your struggles with plain and simple english are welcomed as well stupidicus Apr 2013 #94
LOL! ProSense Apr 2013 #95
my my, the always stupid "LOL" dodge/defense stupidicus Apr 2013 #96
LOL! ProSense Apr 2013 #97
nobody has cringed or achieved a state of panic stupidicus Apr 2013 #98
No ProSense Apr 2013 #99
that should take an eternity, given the likely size of it stupidicus Apr 2013 #100
Wait ProSense Apr 2013 #101
dodgers don't debate, they just change the subject stupidicus Apr 2013 #103
Hey, ProSense Apr 2013 #104
you're the one with a heavy reliance on links, "c&ps", etc stupidicus Apr 2013 #105
Cool ProSense Apr 2013 #108
k&r... spanone Mar 2013 #23
No regrets here Hekate Apr 2013 #35
Not I. Unlike some, I can see both sides. To me, his positives are weighted by what he had to patrice Apr 2013 #36
The duping was on the other side quaker bill Apr 2013 #37
I voted for him with eyes wide open madokie Apr 2013 #38
Nope. I tagged him as just another 3rd Way politician when he promised to escalate the war Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #52
I feel duped as hell. I heard him say with my own ears at a rally I attended that he forestpath Apr 2013 #55
Common mistake you made, not learning the the 3rd way euphemisms for cutting, Dragonfli Apr 2013 #62
Yes, in thirdwayspeak, "sacrifice" means it's the poor/middle class/elderly/sick who must suffer. forestpath Apr 2013 #65
So ProSense Apr 2013 #75
This is why I voted for Pres Obama.. 3rd way my Democratic Arse.. Cha Apr 2013 #61
No I wasn't duped Progressive dog Apr 2013 #64
Well, I guess I was duped in the same way as Elizabeth Warren. MineralMan Apr 2013 #66
Well, I sure wasn't duped into voting for Romney or McCain. LeftInTX Apr 2013 #68
Awww how cute. Rex Apr 2013 #76
Never felt duped. I'm as proud of him today as I was when he announced his first run. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2013 #77
I love the smell of burnt ... 99Forever Apr 2013 #78
Clearly ProSense Apr 2013 #79
You do realize by now... 99Forever Apr 2013 #80
Then ProSense Apr 2013 #81
Wow... 99Forever Apr 2013 #82
LOL! ProSense Apr 2013 #83
Uh no... 99Forever Apr 2013 #84
Well, ProSense Apr 2013 #85
Actually.. 99Forever Apr 2013 #86
LOL! ProSense Apr 2013 #87
More of a vote *against* Romney, really... nomorenomore08 Apr 2013 #102
as was the case for many stupidicus Apr 2013 #106
Unfortunately I think he'll go down as another Bill Clinton - brilliant man, mediocre president. nomorenomore08 Apr 2013 #107
The good thing is ProSense Apr 2013 #111
Perhaps. He does have a whole term left, practically. nomorenomore08 Apr 2013 #112
or worse stupidicus Apr 2013 #113
Wait ProSense Apr 2013 #114
No, ProSense Apr 2013 #109
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